My FC is going back to FFXI... FFXIV FAIL

[NoRyoKu]

And where are you getting those statistics? no where. that is what I thought. Don't just throw around numbers. Then again, the casual player base could be growing because the hardcore players are bored and leaving haha.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000506.html

The player base that was around 50 first this survey ARE the hardcore player ... and ohhhhh wait a minute, they are 5-10% of all the players, strange
These numbers have not change that much, They may have changed but not significantly enough, at give u an error margin of 5%.

[ZenAero]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000506.html

The player base that was around 50 first this survey ARE the hardcore player ... and ohhhhh wait a minute, they are 5-10% of all the players, strange
These numbers have not change that much, They may have changed but not significantly enough, at give u an error margin of 5%.

Since when did having a level 50 make you a hardcore player?

[NoRyoKu]

Since when did having a level 50 make you a hardcore player?

Ok, so all comes down to the definition of an hardcore player. This is true that this can be arbitrary. So here is 2 cents.

An hardcore player is someone that cap tomes everyweek, play for gear only, run throught new content in a week, don't care about other stuff to do in game such as crafting, side questing, complains because there is not enough stuff do to. SE cannot satisfy those people so why botter to put energy to develop 100 dongeons per patch, why botter to make the levelling system so hard that only those can get to 50. It MUST be somewhat easy to get stuff for casual or else this game wouldn't exist. Casual ARE the majority in a MMO, you cannot convince me otherwise. Majority wins that's all.

[AjoraOak]

Ok, so all comes down to the definition of an hardcore player. This is true that this can be arbitrary. So here is 2 cents.

An hardcore player is someone that cap tomes everyweek, play for gear only, run throught new content in a week, don't care about other stuff to do in game such as crafting, side questing, complains because there is not enough stuff do to.

That sounds like a casual player to me, hardcore players at the moment are running through all content by hour 2 of day 1 (and then they cap their myth if they care about alts) and by the 3rd-4th hour of FFXIV are done for the week and can go do real life stuff... I don't even know where to begin with people mentioning crafting and questing (not sidequests). Questing in FFXIV means you kill some # of mobs, events all involve waiting for some boring FATE to pop, and crafting has become completely useless for now once again (unless you cook).

So to sum it up the hardcore players are the ones that play this game the most casually odd, right?

[Royze]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000506.html

The player base that was around 50 first this survey ARE the hardcore player ... and ohhhhh wait a minute, they are 5-10% of all the players, strange
These numbers have not change that much, They may have changed but not significantly enough, at give u an error margin of 5%.

And the fact that on legacy servers the majority of us can have free mules, and the fact that RMT are rampant throughout all servers doing low level quests, selling gil, then getting banned, rinse repeat DO NOT SKEW THESE FIGURES AT ALL?

What about the free 2 play trial period for new players?

Statistics are just numbers. They are not definitive.

[Magis]

And the fact that on legacy servers the majority of us can have free mules, and the fact that RMT are rampant throughout all servers doing low level quests, selling gil, then getting banned, rinse repeat DO NOT SKEW THESE FIGURES AT ALL?

What about the free 2 play trial period for new players?

Statistics are just numbers. They are not definitive.

Yea, it is kind of a large leap from high level characters == hardcore players.

Heck, I know some people on Reddit were lvling multiple characters at the same time, and I'd say that's pretty "hardcore". It wouldn't have shown in this guys stats.

[ZenAero]

And the fact that on legacy servers the majority of us can have free mules, and the fact that RMT are rampant throughout all servers doing low level quests, selling gil, then getting banned, rinse repeat DO NOT SKEW THESE FIGURES AT ALL?

What about the free 2 play trial period for new players?

Statistics are just numbers. They are not definitive.

exactly, SE does'nt know shit about statistics and this is clear evidence. What were their methods as far as counting goes?