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    Hippo's Avatar
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    Miru Miru
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    Pugilist Lv 60

    Help on Twintania

    I play as an off tank in T5. Am having some difficulty

    - I start to kite the 2 snakes about 10s before the 2nd dive sequence starts. What is the best kiting route?
    - After the 2 snakes pop, what is the best way to grab hate - shield lob or flash?
    - when pulling the 4 snakes back to the LB rendezvous point, I took a shitload of damage? Should I pop defensive CD when running back? Or should I keep running and shield lobbing the snakes to raise hate?
    - After reaching the rendezvous point, many a times the 2 new snakes will attack the healers or meless despite me spamming flash. And beacuse I am spamming flash, I dont have time to activate all defensive CD. How do you guys do this part?
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    Eborel Kreuz
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    You start running before the 2nd divebomb phase? That's quite early. I usually run after the 2nd divebomb of the 2nd phase.

    For grabbing aggro, shield lob one, then provoke and shield lob the other snake. I will constantly be switching between the two new snakes and lobbing until I reach the rendezvous point, following which I will CoS and flash

    I take a load of dmg too, so I'll pop hallowed while running back to rendezvous point.
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    Last edited by JeTaisNoobie; 01-24-2014 at 05:02 PM.

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    V'rai Fallstrider
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'm not familiar with a strat where the OT kites any snakes. We have a PLD pick up all three of the first snakes and tanks them untill they're dead. WAR runs over to the spawn spot of the second wave of snakes during the last dive, and then pulls them to the LB rendezvous and tanks them there, typically with no CDs since they die quickly enough not to warrant any real healing (plus, he'll need them for tanking Twintania during phase 4).

    I suppose WAR has less AOE enmity issues. If you're tanking all four small snakes, it would warrant using your Hallowed Ground, since you shouldn't need it for anything else as an OT. It would also lessen the healing needed from healers, effectively reducing their enmity generation.
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    Teresa Faintsmile
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    You should not use HG on snakes, it makes liquid hell more troublesome if you dont have HG up. When the first 2 snakes spawn you can pre-flash and cycle halone between the 2. Pro-tip: you should pop circle of scorn at the beginning of the snakes spawn and half-way before the 3rd refresh comes up is when 2nd set of dive bombs starts. You should use Convalscence+fight or flight for this phase.

    Once the second set of dives starts and you have dodged the 2nd dive u would keep running to the other end of the field where the second set of snakes spawn, at this time you pop tempered will. You can also pre-flash the second set of snakes and u can catch both with your flash + circle of scorn. This time you should pop rampart+bulwark immediately followed by sentinel. The first 2 snake should immediately die to mage LB and the other 2 should follow shortly. Here you want to switch to sword oath and dps down ASCL asap, then run to the neurolink with the rest of the dps/heal.
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    Makado Kitase
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    Excalibur
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    I start running around same as you do, before second divebombs. I just run around the outside and end up where the other two snakes spawn, pop fight or flight spirits within one, then run over flash the other, gather them flash and pop sentinel and rampart while running to big snake, spanning flash as much as I can.
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    V'rai Fallstrider
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    HG for phase 5 as an OT? Why?
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    Azia Merot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallstrider View Post
    I'm not familiar with a strat where the OT kites any snakes.
    This.

    When snakes spawn we have all DPS on the left snake and burn it down, then lower down the right snake while one or two of us focus on lowering the large snakes health. When the stack on the large snake is at about 2 seconds, we kill the second snake to refresh the debuff, just after this is when the second set of divebombs ends, so we go to the LB area, kill the two small snakes then burn the large snake
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    Professor Meowingtons
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    Siren
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Instead of making another thread, I have a question about Warrior (want to know what to do if I was mt or ot) in phase 5. What do you do if you are targeted by liquid hell? Any details on this would be appreciated.
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    Teresa Faintsmile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallstrider View Post
    HG for phase 5 as an OT? Why?
    stacking liquid for easy mode.

    For warrior u just run like a melee dps just dont run into someone or cover up multiple neurolinks.
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    Yuri Ramona
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fallstrider View Post
    I'm not familiar with a strat where the OT kites any snakes. We have a PLD pick up all three of the first snakes and tanks them untill they're dead. WAR runs over to the spawn spot of the second wave of snakes during the last dive, and then pulls them to the LB rendezvous and tanks them there, typically with no CDs since they die quickly enough not to warrant any real healing (plus, he'll need them for tanking Twintania during phase 4).
    The small snakes do not need to go below 50% HP, and if they stay on one tank all that it will do is keep dealing damage to the tank holding them. Instead, they can kite them, avoid knockback from Divebomb through Tempered Will, and be at the second spawn point for the 3rd and 4th snakes immediately when they pop instead of running over from the crevice.

    If the tank is going to be running out of the crevice early and risking a hit by the 6th Divebomb (or worse, hitting the group) then they might as well be taking the snakes with them and nullifying the damage from those two snakes.

    If the tank is not running out early, then you're really putting yourself at unnecessary risk by delaying the LB and death of Asclepius by anywhere from 5-10 seconds.

    I'd take the slim chance that the tank will get picked by a divebomb and fail to dodge it than consistently waste 5-10 seconds extra time of rounding up the new snakes. If the healers drop large cures at any point following the 3rd and 4th snake spawn time, then you put the attempt at risk by throwing enmity all over the place. Having the tank there after kiting to immediately Flash is a much safer bet.

    In any case, kiting will always be better because it puts you in a better position to pick up the second spawned snakes, with little risk of death along the way.
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    Last edited by YuriRamona; 01-25-2014 at 07:34 AM.

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