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  1. #31
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    I am going to wait and see what the patch holds before giving them any credit.

    There is alot of things I am liking that I seen and some things that just seem like the dev team has no clue wtf they are doing.

    Honestly it is all coming down to Dungeons and company content. IF it is just like a typical western zerg fest through a dungeon to kill a boss with nothing else involved... well then I will consider 1.18 an epic failure. If it is involved, challenging, with more then 1 thing to do in the dungeons then i will probably consider it a decent patch... Great patch is already ruled out with the other negatives I seen already... unless they release alot of stuff they have not said anything about yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    this has got to be a joke thread. there is no way anyone that has played a game that is supposed to be pay per play can actually say they have been working hard and making the game better. this game is just the same as release if not worse than it was.

    if it is getting so much better then why are people still leaving a game that is free? the answer is because it is not.
    It's apparent that you didn't play at release, or have forgotten... If the option existed to play the release version or this version I would pick our current build.

    However that being said, they still have a long way to go... I'm hoping 1.18 will be a huge step in that direction as it will be the first real update from the new team.

    By the time the game is one year old I'm thinking we'll see a whole new game, much like we did with XI, only we didn't have access for the first year the game was out here in North America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    People try things alll the time, People like them but also nitpick at things, and the end results usually is negative when the update was a positive.. I don't get it sometimes :/.
    Its just who everyone becomes when they are given the opportunity to make changes. They think mostly about themselves, and use "making the game better" as an excuse. They only want it better for themselves. The two main aspects here are that there are people that want this game to be like other MMORPGs, and there are those who want it to stick to the Final Fantasy franchise.

    However, you can perhaps have a little bit of both and it wouldn't necessarily destroy the entire game.

    Anyways, about this thread. I thank the dev team and community reps for all of their hard work. They could not have done it without YoshiP and the rest of the staff! Thank you and congrats on coming to a close on the major revisions! Keep up the good work!
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    I want to say Thanks , thats it . Bye
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    I'm glad someone has the guts to make a thread that appreciates the devs even though it's a potential hate magnet. And it's really got a lot of hate as well.

    It seems to me that people don't completely understand just how difficult creating such a massive game is. I've taken college classes on programming, and have even done personal studies of it. Programming is far from easy, even if it's something that would seem so simple to do. Any change to the game, even the addition of content, would mean rewriting the core of the code, and it takes time to find the places in the code that need adjustment.

    Also, I've spent the past 10 years or so trying to become a writer which is very difficult. The reason why? Because it's hard coming up with new ideas that aren't just complete rip-offs of something else. In the movie industry it's difficult as well, that's why nowadays you see remakes of movies, see cartoons or comics turned into movies, or see a movie about something similar to another movie you've already seen. What's this got to do with making a game? Creativity is hard! SE wants content never experienced in any other MMO or single-player game, because that's what makes Final Fantasy what it is. And creativity is especially hard when you become an adult, which the whole staff at SE are adults I'm sure, and creativity lacks because your imagination becomes limited when you experience the real world and you wonder if your ideas will be liked or hated, and believe that maybe you should just keep them to yourself.

    Now, after all that I want to say that Yoshi-P and his crew have been doing a great job in trying to make this game what it should've been at release, and know that there are people out there that understand the struggles it takes to making it likable. Keep up the good work! But do you think you can keep us a little more informed on what's going on at HQ? I hate being in the dark for so long while waiting on the Letters ><
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    Regardless of all the hate and love that is tossed around on these forums. This is what the community is. I appreciate those who negatively critique SE on their sloppy performances and I appreciate those who can notice how far the game has come since launch. This thread should help shows SE that they aren't just creating a game designed for hateful robots, but some kind human beings as well. :P

    I'm sort of in limbo with SE (though I find myself more pissed then relieved). At the end of the day I just have to sit and wait for the content, and balance irl and in game tasks in the meantime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    Would like to agree but, im not gonna jump the gun & say the Dungeons are awesome until ive actually tried them.

    But whats even worse is....im sure we have to pay a monthly fee sooner than expected,
    with recent actuvities regarding the updated "Click & Buy" updates.

    Right now im asking myself, would i pay for this?
    Why are people so bad at using common sense? Click and Buy maintenance means nothing except that there is a maintenance. This has nothing to do with FFXIV going P2P at any time...its just a notice to the FFXIV community, cause regardless the game being F2P, you still need to verfiy stuff over C&B if you want to add a character slot or just any kind of service to your account, so C&B having a maintenance makes that IMPOSSIBLE. This is merely a SERVICE OF NOTIFICATION!

    GOD PEOPLE, PLS!!! THINK!
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    Last edited by TirionCrey; 06-22-2011 at 06:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    Auto-attack functionality will be prioritized in 1.18. => thats just the start. Its not finished.
    Priority in 1.18

    How are you quoting something and cant see it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    Attack motion diversification and fine-tuning are planned for 1.19. => fine-tuning should come before dungeons.
    Yeah Motions.. those are of course elementary for a working Battle-System. Ironic say hello....
    Fine-Tuning in? It doesnt say what they mean by Fine-Tuning.. but one posibility is:

    Re-adjusting Battle-System, Debugging.. etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    Multiple attacks during auto-attack is also being planned for the future. => future. So its also not finished!
    Future =

    in 1 Year
    in 1 Month
    in 1 Week
    in 1 Day
    in 1 Hour
    in 1 Minute
    in 1 Second

    <_<

    Like it is also said in the Post and in the Video: It is still in development. It is not said "It wont be done before 1.18". And like you quoted yourself on Top:

    Priority in 1.18

    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    so how and where do you read that the things i mentioned are finished before the dungeons? i didn't find it tbh.
    By reading the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    It's apparent that you didn't play at release, or have forgotten... If the option existed to play the release version or this version I would pick our current build.

    However that being said, they still have a long way to go... I'm hoping 1.18 will be a huge step in that direction as it will be the first real update from the new team.

    By the time the game is one year old I'm thinking we'll see a whole new game, much like we did with XI, only we didn't have access for the first year the game was out here in North America.
    actually yes i did play the game on release. sorry the changes that were made from release that made to make the game better were done by tanaka. ya know the changing of the sp system. i remember how i loved hitting a crab and having the mages get 5 times as much sp as i did although they did zero damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Who said they're coming in 1.18?

    Not trying to be an ass, just genuinely curious as I don't remember reading that anywhere.
    To touch on some other items under development, I’m happy to say that work on one raid area is complete, with the second hot on its heels. We just need to secure enough time for testing and optimizing balance…which, I’m afraid, will push the patch behind schedule.
    This means 1.18 was delayed to finish the second dungeon for release.
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