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  1. #11
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    Hycinthus's Avatar
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    Alonzo Vivas
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    What exactly is this "Maat"?
    Maat is an NPC that you must fight in an arena in order to become higher than level 70 in FFXI.
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  2. #12
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    Aeriyn Ashley
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I play MMOs because it is fun to fight dragons with your friends.

    Clearly ya'll play MMOs because your sense of self-worth is so damaged that you need the adoration and adulation of complete strangers in an imaginary world in order to exist...
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  3. #13
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    Devilray Asura
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    No.

    If this is what you want, this game is clearly not designed for you.

    Go to Kickstarter and find a niche sandbox 1998-era MMO to grind away your life on.
    How do you know what the game is designed for? You are not the DEV. FC housing was the first nail in the coffin for people like you. There is more to come that will destroy your hopes of it being casual forever. I run through the low-lvl zone to do relic quests, and there is no one that gives a crap about high-levels because there is no danger in the open-world. Don't understand all this nonsense about grinding when that's not even what we are talking about.

    And to address further opinions about this matter, have you guys seen the anime .hack //sign, Sword Art Online, Log Horizon, etc... All of them are about MMO worlds where the high-level characters were sought after and respected the most. Just more evidence that FFXIV ARR is kind of going against the trend. High levels are supposed to be adored and respected, but there is honestly no reason to bat an eye at them in ARR. The only achievement worth bragging about is Coil Allagan weapon, and that is really not enough because it is something really anyone could do within a couple weeks. FFXI, you would be head over heels for someone who had 75, and especially a 75 with a relic. WoW, 60 in vanilla wow was pretty admirable. PSO (Phantasy Star Online) lvl 200 was awesome. Don't know why you guys are proposing to flatten the hierachy when that is what keeps people playing. FFXIV ARR lvl 50... BORING, not even going to examine you. You will see, the market will return back to its ROOTS. ARR is only a branch of a tree that will wither away in due time if it doesn't start embracing its roots.
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    Last edited by Devilray; 01-23-2014 at 07:22 PM.

  4. #14
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    CUTS3R's Avatar
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    F'lhinna Kutseru
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hocchi View Post
    "I want to be unique and special, I want people to worship my e-existence".
    Im all for this, its just too bad the game doesn't cater about individuals at all.
    I mean whats the point of MMOs if its not for showing off my superiority and amaze envious newbies with stuff they won't get until they "get on my level" ?

    No im not trolling.
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  5. #15
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    LB1 in FFXIV will be a FATE.
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  6. #16
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    Aeriyn Ashley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    *words*
    Clearly our idea of fun is very different.

    What I like about these games are the raid bosses, the difficult and challenging encounters that take a while to clear. I like fighting the tough monsters, wiping dozens of times, talking strategy with my group, getting frustrated a bit, and that incredible rush when half your raid is dead and you've got one tank left and the healer's out of MP and your monk pulls out the level 3 limit break and holycrapthatwastense!

    I don't give a flying rat's patooie if people "respect" or "adore" me.

    I don't want to brag. I don't brag about what I do (well maybe I do a little, to my FC, jokingly). I want to have fun fighting absolutely ridiculous monsters with my friends.

    You... people... who crave the adulation and worship of others... seriously there's something wrong with ya'll. I recommend therapy.
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    Last edited by synaesthetic; 01-23-2014 at 07:33 PM.

  7. #17
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    TornadoFury's Avatar
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    i hope that because 1-50 really felt like one big tutorial for this game. i hope when they decide to increase the levels its WAY more grindy much longer to level i don't wanna have to spam fates do 2 dungeons and tada level up. they need to make it last and i think they could pull off bigger areas with grindy mobs and such.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    Clearly our idea of fun is very different.

    What I like about these games are the raid bosses, the difficult and challenging encounters that take a while to clear. I like fighting the tough monsters, wiping dozens of times, talking strategy with my group, getting frustrated a bit, and that incredible rush when half your raid is dead and you've got one tank left and the healer's out of MP and your monk pulls out the level 3 limit break and holycrapthatwastense!

    I don't give a flying rat's patooie if people "respect" or "adore" me.

    I don't want to brag. I don't brag about what I do (well maybe I do a little, to my FC, jokingly). I want to have fun fighting absolutely ridiculous monsters with my friends.

    You... people... who crave the adulation and worship of others... seriously there's something wrong with ya'll. I recommend therapy.
    I do need therapy probably. MMOs aren't exactly a normal hobby if you think about it because we are willing to jump into another world and achieve things that have no impact on our real lives. Anyhow, I play for those reasons as well, for the adrenaline rush. I just feel it is more realistic when not everyone can achieve something. That is how the world real works. That is why we have bums walking around on the streets. Even if it is a game, people play it for those reasons to escape their normal lives and not just to become a tactician in a game. If the real world was like ARR, everyone would be happy in the sense that their basic needs are covered, but that is not the case. If you don't agree with it, I understand now.
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    Last edited by Devilray; 01-23-2014 at 07:40 PM.

  9. #19
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    TenshiArakawa's Avatar
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    Tenshi Arakawa
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    Hyperion
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    [troll]Here is your special paper crown of best half-god player in the whole world of Eorzea, happy ?[/troll]

    No, seriously, this isn't necessary at all. Every players should respect each other, we don't care about lvl/iLvl.

    And I don't know what is this "Maat", but I would like to see something like in The Secret World, a solo fight against a doppelganger of your job.
    It's not "super hard" but people have to learn their job in order to succed and it's a good point.
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  10. #20
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    Jinrya Geki
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    Clearly our idea of fun is very different.

    What I like about these games are the raid bosses, the difficult and challenging encounters that take a while to clear. I like fighting the tough monsters, wiping dozens of times, talking strategy with my group, getting frustrated a bit, and that incredible rush when half your raid is dead and you've got one tank left and the healer's out of MP and your monk pulls out the level 3 limit break and holycrapthatwastense!
    There is no boss in this game that is hard to beat. Then only hard fight is Titan and that is only because of lag, every fight you don't even need to think to win. That is not fun to me. Not one fight so far has made me go " oh god that was a dozy".

    It's borderline insulting actually that people consider this hard. Dark Souls is hard.

    This is why people don't go, oh that guy is so cool. He beat that and got that sword or whatever.
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