Please do something about duty finder queues...

[WhiteDragon]

This issue will never be fixed, your best option is to stop bitching about it and try another class. They could make it five DPS in every party and one tank one healer, and you would still complain about having to wait 20/30 minutes compared to a Tank's instant. DPS are a dime a dozen easy mode thing that everyone wants to do. Your job is to just hit things for most of the content. It has the lowest barrier of entry and you'll always see DPS be the highest amount of people. Always.


You're literally part of the problem if you're a DPS complaining about waiting forever. If you don't like that DPS wait so long, go another role so OTHER DPSers don't have to wait as long and you get an instant queue as well.

"Oh but that's not fun" oh well sucks to be you. I'd love to play a Dragoon or Monk over PLD half the time, but I also like making other people have fun rather then just myself like a brat.

[prymortal]

This is my entry to the waiting times competition

Played DCU Battlefield 4 & Day Z while waiting for it.
& yes suprisingly we did win when we finally got in another 20 mins later

http://lalafell.xxxblog.jp/archives/36707999.html JP servers seem to be quicker

[Deifact]

I think some people forget that this is a game, a game is designed to be entertaining. Saying "just play a tank!" Isn't a long term solution. If people aren't able to play a job they enjoy and thus aren't entertained, the product fails in its most basic function.

Saying "well its up to the players to change!" Isn't right either. If players are either being forced to play a job they don't enjoy, or are waiting for ages to do content, they will just stop playing and paying for the game.

Its in SE best interest to sort this problem out, as its only them that will lose out if they leave it how it is and people stop paying.

[Jyoeru]

I think some people forget that this is a game, a game is designed to be entertaining. Saying "just play a tank!" Isn't a long term solution. If people aren't able to play a job they enjoy and thus aren't entertained, the product fails in its most basic function.

Saying "well its up to the players to change!" Isn't right either. If players are either being forced to play a job they don't enjoy, or are waiting for ages to do content, they will just stop playing and paying for the game.

Its in SE best interest to sort this problem out, as its only them that will lose out if they leave it how it is and people stop paying.

If everyone had a tank and played that tank once a week or so, you know, for science, we'd all win. I could play my bard more, not that there is really much difference mashing buttons for a bard vs. tank. The point is this is a community. You DD-only people are upset because your queue times are long. You refuse to play the roles that are deficient. The only fixes are:

a) Eliminate all non-DD roles. Well, I'd stop playing. Pretty sure a lot of people would.
b) Make anyone able to tank. Well, that might have a lot of problems for design.
c) Get more people to tank. Well SE can't incentivize that enough to get y'all into the roles. So, I guess it's up to you to make some compromises or deal with the long queues. OR: Go at it old fashioned and find your own groups and not rely on the highly anti-MMO cross-server queuing tool that didn't really exist in MMOs for a long time.

Or we could do something like have 200 DD per 1 tank per 1 healer. Fixed. Or, no, no it's not. It's not fixed at all.

As to your last point, SE loses nothing. You go to another game that has. . . wait for it. . . the same exact problem. If 80% of the people playing an MMO want to only mash DD buttons, then that mentality creates a deficiency for which no tangible solution exists. Supply/demand. Supply/demand. That's how it works right thar.

This game would be boring with no healers or tanks, and you know it, too. There'd be no danger, no way to balance mechanics so that you felt threatened. If every man could be for himself, then it would be as simple as "why even bother? Why not just walk in, tell the boss to drop his weapon and forfeit his loots?"

It's a super complicated problem, and ironically, it's created by the players.

This issue will never be fixed, your best option is to stop bitching about it and try another class. They could make it five DPS in every party and one tank one healer, and you would still complain about having to wait 20/30 minutes compared to a Tank's instant. DPS are a dime a dozen easy mode thing that everyone wants to do. Your job is to just hit things for most of the content. It has the lowest barrier of entry and you'll always see DPS be the highest amount of people. Always.


You're literally part of the problem if you're a DPS complaining about waiting forever. If you don't like that DPS wait so long, go another role so OTHER DPSers don't have to wait as long and you get an instant queue as well.

"Oh but that's not fun" oh well sucks to be you. I'd love to play a Dragoon or Monk over PLD half the time, but I also like making other people have fun rather then just myself like a brat.

This is a little harsh, but he does make some good points. I do what I do because no one else wants to (outside of healing--I prefer to heal and started that back in WOW when no one wanted to heal), so I learned to make it fun. Everyone wins. Or I could just DD and be sad about the wait times.

[Nova_Dresden]

This is my entry to the waiting times competition

Played DCU Battlefield 4 & Day Z while waiting for it.
& yes suprisingly we did win when we finally got in another 20 mins later

http://lalafell.xxxblog.jp/archives/36707999.html JP servers seem to be quicker

I think part of your problem is that you have taken all 4 DPS slots in a party queue. I never queue for CT as my tank without taking at least one other DPS in the queue with me to alleviate their issues and my friend has done the same with his healer. You're just shooting yourself in the foot there since you're effectively eliminating the possibility of any tank in queue with an attached DPS and further increasing your own queue time.

[Delorean]

roll a tank

I have two tank classes. One is ilv 90, the other is ilv 86.

Telling everyone else to go play a tank does not fix the problem. Because even if they did it wouldn't change the fact that they would eventually rather play something that is not a tank.

Now, letting tanks have a chance to roll on equipment that they wanted from an instance like CT or something would probably do something to reduce the wait of queue times. But players of other roles probably do not like the sound of that, so we're right back where we started.

[Craiger]

Complained about this too --> Rolled a tank --> Could get into dungeons/raids very fast with tank --> Quit playing tank cause that's not what I wanted to play, and obviously it still take forever for my DD's.... -_-

You "roll a tank" people have to think with your brains....

If someone wants to play as DD, then they should be able to. Making excuses for that is pathetic. Like I pointed out, rolling as a tank doesn't make it easier for my DD's (the ones I like to play)

Sure, if everyone rolls a tank and plays once in a while, then this might not happen... but that's not the case, and it shouldn't have to be the case either.

Have never played an MMO where I had to wait for such ridiculous periods of time.

I don't know exactly how they could fix it, but I'm not a developer either... so that's not my job.

One thing is for sure, I rather quit playing this game, than changing my main job to a tank...

[jars]

really while I could queue as a healer runs are going to go way smother on my 85 smn than relying on random dps. I don't really have to wait more than 15-20 minutes for a roulette though, and I only do one a week at most

[Ayanne]

For those who keep saying we should all roll a tank or healer... it isn't always that we don't enjoy those classes, it could also be because we are fully aware we aren't very good at them.

[Septimus]

I have an idea, I am sure that most people will hate it, but why not?

I have Warrior and Summoner/Scholar to level 50. I would like to get the rest of my jobs to 50, but when I do DFR on Black Mage, Dragoon, Bard, or Monk I am not available to tank and am clogging up the queue with another DD. Why not make it so if you enter DFR on a level 50 job that is in demand (mainly tank but sometimes healer), that the XP that you would have received from kills and bonuses are stored into a pool that will be applied the next time you complete a DFR on a job that is not in demand. (Mainly, any DPS.) So, say I see that tanks are needed for low dungeons, I pop onto my WAR in DFR, run through a complete dungeon to build up the bonus, then change to say Monk, run another complete DFR dungeon, and get the XP and bonuses from both to my Monk at the end.

And I can hear it already, "but Septimus, people aren't going to learn their jobs if they only play tanks and healers." This is why the XP would go into a pool that you would have to play a DD job to spend, you would still have to play the job through an entire dungeon, (so someone couldn't just waltz in to a final boss to get the bonus) meaning that half of the time people with high-level tanks won't be competition for your DFR. It will help to incentivize people who either like or don't mind tanking (or healing) to use those jobs to help speed up the roulette.

There would have to be a balance so that you don't get an instant 5 levels if you are on a level 16 job (the total amount in the pool is reduced the lower the job), but this can be fixed. The point is that this will get more tanks into the system, now let's see how this will cause the collapse of Western Civilization...