Please do something about duty finder queues...

[SarcasmMisser]

The problem with those wait times is the stress, the idea SE has about making more difficult content is increasing stress on tanking duties, look at garuda ex, now we have to pull an add and the 1shooting plume with a knockbacking tornado in the way. while the DPS just have to move to a specified point on the battlefield.

The most difficult content for a DPS is titan, and it only requires to memorize his rotantion and a good connection.

Ifrit's DPS check catches out more unskilled DPS than Titan, with the exception of BLM. You might know this if you actually play their jobs. Or have done the EM primals. Or a single turn of coil.

I hate to be that guy but your post was just the most perfect example of ignorance about other jobs. Skill checks for DPS has no obvious external indicator other that you wipe if they aren't good enough, of course it's just going to look like "they just have to go to that point".

[Renik]

Ifrit's DPS check catches out more unskilled DPS than Titan, with the exception of BLM. You might know this if you actually play their jobs. Or have done the EM primals. Or a single turn of coil.

I hate to be that guy but your post was just the most perfect example of ignorance about other jobs. Skill checks for DPS has no obvious external indicator other that you wipe if they aren't good enough, of course it's just going to look like "they just have to go to that point".

and so says the BLM who has... 0 tank jobs at 50, as you say DPS check is important but as DPSs has those checks we tanks have damage mitigation checks, even if a tank is well geared he/she must know how to use the dmage mitigation skills, se we have a check just like the DPSs and on the other have we have to take care of hate control, positioning and tanking mechanics that are different on every fight, but you dont have to believe me just look at the numbers, there are a lot of new players that start leveling GLA (because its the sword class, you know, it's cool<.<) but most of them end up playing a DPS class, at the same time lots of high lvl tanks just give up because of this stress.

HM and EX primas are not fun for tanks, they are a pain, content to clear thats all, and not because they are hard, just because they are stressing, a like a lol-openworld-monster that cant kill you but can slow you.

[SarcasmMisser]

and so says the BLM who has... 0 tank jobs at 50, as you say DPS check is important

If you read my previous post you would see I am leveling a tank with DF, which puts me on par with you since the hardest content you've done is hm primals.

Seriously your rebuttal is so weak, I'm not the one lecturing other jobs on their lack of difficulty when I don't even do hard content but you were just desperate to find something in response to getting called out over not even touching the hard dps fights. Call me out if you see me whining on the ease of jobs I don't even play. But I do all the content in the game as a dps and I can say with substance that there are hard dps skill checks in the game, and your post is wrong and painful to read.

[DeadRiser]

It's not SE fault for so many people wanting to play the easiest jobs. The game is designed fine.

I'm sure there are at least 2 party finder groups already listed every night, there are on my server. Or just make your own.
If not, play something else :3 tanking and healing are fun, give it a shot so some of us healers/tanks can get a shot at dpsing sometimes

[MikoteAstra]

It's not SE fault for so many people wanting to play the easiest jobs. The game is designed fine.

I'm sure there are at least 2 party finder groups already listed every night, there are on my server. Or just make your own.
If not, play something else :3 tanking and healing are fun, give it a shot so some of us healers/tanks can get a shot at dpsing sometimes

Now this is what i call ignorance !

DPS is easiest class are you joking with me!


Do you know as Monk what you have to do ...you need to keep yourself all the time at the flank of the monsters, you need to build your dps and watch it not to go dowen, reserve some of your skills for certain part of the battles, constant dodging of all kinds, all the time you are at the hottest spot to be killed because you are melle, you need to watch the entire filed and what is happening in order immediately to assist where is needed and save players, you also need to watch not to be hit by something...there are two reasons for that....1. most of time is one shot kill 2nd not to waste Healers mana so that they can use it when i most needed, also do you know how hard is to hit moving targets and keep your dps up, your TP goes soooo fast empty !

I will give you example !


In CT by fighting the monsters, 3 tanks fell dowen....all the healers were in one platform and 2 Eyes atacked them....the tanks and other other dps simply ignore them and i jumped to help even i had little hp left, it was good that i kept my dash skill unused otherwise i would be killed by the poison,and so had to tank and dodge the eyes! The healers were glad that i jumped it was great experience !



Here is an idea about the waiting time to be fixed !


How about make dns bit more hard and like so you put in the party instead 2 DPS, 4DPS !

This will solve waiting problem a lot !

[Tiggy]

How about make dns bit more hard and like so you put in the party instead 2 DPS, 4DPS !

This will solve waiting problem a lot !

You say this like it's easy to re-balance the ENTIRE game.

[MikoteAstra]

You say this like it's easy to re-balance the ENTIRE game.

This is not my job to do, is SE and the team is working on the game !

My idea is to double the DPS players in the party, but if doing so i supose the dn will be easy so i supose they need to make the dns then harder !

Waiting 40min-90min and more is no understandable at all no matter the reason is! I like alot of people, we dont have 12h a day to play the game and to wait more then half of my playtime for getting in a dn is absurd !

I give them my money to have a nice experiance in the game not the oposite ! They should start doing their job and not to come to me with stupid excuses like zoom out your camera, or because we cant keep with RMT and the demand for housing let make the prices sky high !


They know for a lot of problems from long ago so its about time to start doing their job, if they cant should be replaced like it will happen in eany company !

[Tiggy]

This is not my job to do, is SE and the team is working on the game !

My idea is to double the DPS players in the party, but if doing so i supose the dn will be easy so i supose they need to make the dns then harder !

Right. I can suggest all kinds of crazy things, but it's everyone else's job to do it! Listen. It's easy to say that will fix it, but to do it is another thing entirely. If you think for even a second that your suggest has even the slightest chance of happening then you are sorely mistaken. I don't mind that you are trying to think of ways around the problem, but suggesting a fundamental change and rebalance of the game is never going to happen at this stage. We need to try and think of options within the realm of possibility.

[Welsper59]

Waiting 40min-90min and more is no understandable at all no matter the reason is!

Let's throw out a plausible number during a weekend of player numbers on DF queue. Let's say you queue for CT as DPS. 100 tanks, 100 healers, and 1000 DPS are in queue. That's around 16 groups (96 tanks, 96 healers, 192 DPS). Look at the remaining numbers... 4 tanks, 4 heals, and 808 DPS... over 800! Even if you don't believe that 1000 DPS in queue during a high-time is plausible, with a variance of 808 players, I think it's safe to assume that it doesn't matter what number you throw out as "plausible" would be... there's still going to be a lot of people waiting for that 40-90min. Heck, even with your suggestion of doubling the DPS count for groups (384 DPS in that previous example), that still leaves a grand majority of players waiting.

Of course, balancing around that would also cause problems for groups trying to do things as a premade. While DPS is not an issue in solo queue, nor in just looking around at what class players currently are, finding people to actively join your group is an entirely different story. You'd be surprised as to how long it takes to fill DPS spots, as I can tell you for sure that it's not instant.

[Warlyx]

tanking CT is 1 of the most boring things u can do in FFXIV