Let 2 SCH shields stack with diminishing returns

[Squa]

Let the second SCH shield stack at a 50% rate if another SCH in the group already has a shield on. WHM are already the better healer, but have a lot of groups that will not allow 2 SCH seems sad.

[Maku]

Let the second SCH shield stack at a 50% rate if another SCH in the group already has a shield on. WHM are already the better healer, but have a lot of groups that will not allow 2 SCH seems sad.

WHM isn't a better healer. SCHs can work really well together just as 2 WHMs can but they need more communication. When I am with a SCH I always make sure we have a Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination rotation. Also, if the fight as phases (most fights do) I will work it out that during such and such phase I will do shielding and the other will just spam Physick so we don't waste MP. Because my MP will run out more we then switch for a phase and all I do is Physick and my MP recovers. I would actually say that 2SCHs is better than 2WHMs given that the two know how to work together. It just so happens that it is rare to have 2 of us that can work well. I do prefer having a WHM buddy though. ^^

[Squa]

WHM isn't a better healer. SCHs can work really well together just as 2 WHMs can but they need more communication. When I am with a SCH I always make sure we have a Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination rotation. Also, if the fight as phases (most fights do) I will work it out that during such and such phase I will do shielding and the other will just spam Physick so we don't waste MP. Because my MP will run out more we then switch for a phase and all I do is Physick and my MP recovers. I would actually say that 2SCHs is better than 2WHMs given that the two know how to work together. It just so happens that it is rare to have 2 of us that can work well. I do prefer having a WHM buddy though. ^^

SCH has extremely weak AOE healing. THey can heal fine except any fight with large aoe damage. WHM has amazing aoe healing, and also can single target heal great with regen/cure/free cure ii. A SCH helps a WHM do his job well (not the other way around)

[Mhaeric]

A SCH helps a WHM do his nob well

Just chiming in only to say I laughed out loud at this highly amusing typo.

[Maku]

SCH has extremely weak AOE healing. THey can heal fine except any fight with large aoe damage. WHM has amazing aoe healing, and also can single target heal great with regen/cure/free cure ii. A SCH helps a WHM do his nob well (not the other way around)

Again, I don't think SCH AoE is weak at all IF stacked with another SCH. Yes a single SCHs AoE isn't that great but I have done Titan EX (arguably the most AoE Healing Intensive fight we have currently) with 2 SCHs and if you work out rotations like I mentioned in my first post we do just fine if not better than WHMs cause we don't need Ballads.

[Volsung]

There definitely should be some benefit. Its a huge waste for them to not stack at all.
You can get two regen stacks from 2 whm medica 2s.

[chumsy]

There definitely should be some benefit. Its a huge waste for them to not stack at all.
You can get two regen stacks from 2 whm medica 2s.

is this true? never played whm at 50, but if regen stacks with other regen, then it doenst make sense for 2 shields to not stack

[Mhaeric]

is this true? never played whm at 50, but if regen stacks with other regen, then it doenst make sense for 2 shields to not stack

They definitely do not stack. If you cast a spell that grants the Galvanize effect (i.e. the shield) on someone who already has a Galvanize effect, then one of two things will happen:

1. If your new Galvanize effect is larger than the current remaining Galvanize effect, then the old one is overwritten and they receive the full effect of your new one. You can see this by noting that both before and after your cast there is only one green Galvanize icon on the target.
2. If the current remaining Galvanize effect is larger than your new Galvanize effect, then you get a flying text message on your target stating, "Your Galvanize has no effect!"

As for Regen, it's easy to tell they stack, because you can see multiple icons on the target. One for each regen effect on them. Notably, Regen and Medica II also stack both with themselves and eachother. So if you have 3 WHM in the party you can have 3 regens and 3 Medica II regens running on a single target at the same time.

[chumsy]

They definitely do not stack. If you cast a spell that grants the Galvanize effect (i.e. the shield) on someone who already has a Galvanize effect, then one of two things will happen:.

I already know shields dont stack, im a sch, but with whm stacking regens, that i didnt know. extremely powerful , essentially having 2-3 regens on a tank means you can forget about even healing them. I doubt many ppl have even healed as a sch end game. Ive done titan ext and it aint easy, having to hit 3-4 different keys/making sure fairy is in good position for tumult, whm just hit one cure III/medica. imagine your pet dying mid battle, you lose essentially a huge amount of healing or lots of time trying to resummon, if swift cast is on CD.

[Lyrinn]

Do we really need to go through this again? SCH has a large arsenal of damage mitigation on top of easier MP management. WHM does nothing but heal. If WHM didn't have stronger heals, there would be a serious problem.

I'm all for seeing better synergy between SCH/SCH but please refrain from claiming SCH or better than WHM or vice-versa as that does nothing but make both parties mad.