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    Satyagrahi's Avatar
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    Satya Beoulve
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    Target's role/class/job tag needed for PvP

    Hello!

    I am writing to suggest that a tag such as <tjob>, <tclass>, or <trole> be added to the game, mostly for PvP use (or only for PvP use?). This tag will display the job or class or role of the target, rather than the target's name.

    I see many players who have text in a macro for crowd control saying something like "sleeping <t>, please do not touch." The problem is that a name is not useful in PvP, since we cannot see the names of the other players. A much better way would be to be able to announce the ROLE of the person you are sleeping, or maybe their class/job.

    Text that reads: "sleeping scholar, please do not touch," or "sleeping healer, please do not touch," would be well-suited to PvP use.

    Maybe just <t.j>, <t.c>, or <t.r> are what the tags should be, but I trust the dev team will come up with the best option for one or for implementing all three.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    you can mark target before u sleep it and every1 should notice that.
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    Natsuki Shinohara
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    I don't understand the whole "Fresh Meat" thing anyway, why not just make the player-name=class default
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    Kahlan Amnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    you can mark target before u sleep it and every1 should notice that.
    haha- you do not solo queue much do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    haha- you do not solo queue much do you?
    yes i did today like 20 solo but i dont have sleep also :P
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    you can mark target before u sleep it and every1 should notice that.
    You could have a flashing 'DO NOT TOUCH' sign over their heads and a police siren going off when anyone targets them but people would still sprint across the map to wake the healer.

    Solo queuing as a BLM is a test of your patience. You'd think that explicitly telling people who you're sleeping and what you're marking them with before the fight would help, but you would be wrong.
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    Chachasamu Cocosamu
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    I like this idea. Black Mage role would be listed as "meatshield".
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    Tremor Raid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nenin View Post
    You could have a flashing 'DO NOT TOUCH' sign over their heads and a police siren going off when anyone targets them but people would still sprint across the map to wake the healer.

    Solo queuing as a BLM is a test of your patience. You'd think that explicitly telling people who you're sleeping and what you're marking them with before the fight would help, but you would be wrong.
    Absolutely true, I mark with bind and express immediately not to attack in the chat, but most rounds they either get hit as a target or by an aoe seconds afterward.

    During one round the entire opposing team was grouped around our healer => big mistake and perfect opportunity for an AOE sleep => I sleep the team and mark a target; 3 seconds later, boom! An aoe attack hits at all of them! -_-

    This can easily be a round losing mistake, and hitting a sleeping opponent is a mistake that happens more often than not during solo que's. Once an opponent wakes up, the BLM is target number 1 above all others, because people really don't like to be slept XD. It also makes BLM's look much weaker to most than they actually are since, from the perspective of other classes after a loss like this, "the BLM didn't do much damage" and "dies too easily".

    In response to the original post, I really actually like the idea of having the party member's role in the chat in place of the opponents name when declaring a sleep/bind. This is much more relevant to the environment in general since I should not be able to determine an opponents name by simply targeting an opponent with a macro. Of course this would also greatly reduce the ability to deceive your opponents since they could just target and determine your role immediately, and then mark as they scroll through each opponent. I like the idea still though.
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    Last edited by tremor24; 01-23-2014 at 10:27 AM.

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    i don't think dumbing down pvp is a good idea
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    Satya Beoulve
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    Glad to see they made jobs visible now as titles in PvP rather than the title of "Fresh Meat."

    The concerns of this thread are hereby addressed!
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