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    Zepheron's Avatar
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    Scholar and Summoner shared attributes needs fixed!

    I love to play smn and I want to play sch well.

    There is a major barrier that prevents me from doing this. The attribute feature for each job is tied to arcanist thereby making you chose 1 of 2 options.

    1) split your attributes mediocre at both.

    2) Assign all your attributes to int or mnd allowing the other to be gimped.

    This is unacceptable! No other job has to make this choice.

    This game is about being able to be the best at your job of choice. Gear, Attributes, Macros, play styles, everything for all jobs but 2. By definition that's an imbalance placed on a class that isn't on any other.
    Please fix this so I can play 2 jobs that I love at the best they can be rather than having to make one suffer over the other.

    Give each job independent attribute allocation of equal value.
    Nothing game breaking here as Smn is all int and Sch is all mnd.
    If you didn't want people to play both smn and sch then you should not have put both of them into the game.
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    Inari Silverfox
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    Fixing implies it's broken. It's not. They want it to work that way. It's design. You could say it's bad design, but it's still intentional.

    Personsally I just split them. Haven't had any problems.

    Edit: fixed typo. Darn iPhone autocorrect.
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    Last edited by Naberrie; 01-23-2014 at 04:09 AM.

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    Indeed. Yoshi said it in a live letter. He wants you to CHOOSE which you PREFER to play and stat accordingly. There's also Hymns should you ever change your mind. For me I did 23 MND and 7 INT. That puts the ungeared MND/INT stats of the respective jobs within 1 of each other. If I need to change it I have a stack of Hymns ready to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Indeed. Yoshi said it in a live letter. He wants you to CHOOSE which you PREFER to play and stat accordingly. There's also Hymns should you ever change your mind. For me I did 23 MND and 7 INT. That puts the ungeared MND/INT stats of the respective jobs within 1 of each other. If I need to change it I have a stack of Hymns ready to do so.
    Give each job independent attribute allocation of equal value.
    Nothing game breaking here as Smn is all int and Sch is all mnd.
    If you didn't want people to play both smn and sch then you should not have put both of them into the game. (0)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zepheron View Post
    Give each job independent attribute allocation of equal value.
    Nothing game breaking here as Smn is all int and Sch is all mnd.
    If you didn't want people to play both smn and sch then you should not have put both of them into the game. (0)
    You can repeat it all you want. Your view is not the only view and not the developers view. By repeating yourself, you're not going to get any sympathy.

    It's by design, as such not broken. Nothing needs to be fixed.
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    this is an intended choice every smn/sch needs to make, the only reason it affects them and noone else is because they are the only class with 2 job options, once more jobs are introduced you can bet your ass they will have to make these same choices

    they gave us the armory system so that we may have a bit of vesatility in our character builds, they never said that every one of our jobs was going to be able to be maxxed out with no penalty to our other jobs with this system
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    Vyndel Farstrider
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    I see no reason to force this so called "meaningful choice" when the game was specifically designed (down to the subscription types available...) around playing on 1 character and 1 character alone.

    I mean, I can be a MNK with maxed out STR and switch instantly to a BLM with maxed out INT.. mechanics wise there should be the same for jobs of the same class.

    The restriction feels very out of place to me. (an out of place time sink )

    You may disagree and the game designers may disagree for now, but it doesn't invalidate some people's wishes.
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    Last edited by GabrielK; 01-23-2014 at 03:07 AM.

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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Don't worry, other classes eventually face the same "problem".
    And it's a good thing we have to choose at some point. It's pretty boring to be exactly the same as all the other characters on the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zepheron View Post
    I love to play smn and I want to play sch well.
    You can. I have stats allocated for SMN. I can still play SCH just fine. Heck, sometimes you'll even see a SCH or WHm reallocated points to VIT for turn 5 because the extra mind doesn't make the difference between winning and losing.


    This is unacceptable! No other job has to make this choice.
    Too bad. New jobs in the future will have to make this choice too.

    Decisions to be made are good in games. If you can't handle decisions, well, this game isn't the only thing you'll have trouble with. This isn't a permanent decision either. You can spend company seals to respec your stats.

    Currently this and your grand company are literally the only decisions a player makes during the game that lend any uniqueness whatsoever to their character.
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    Zedine Zafir
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    Every time I see this argument I think of the following "why cant they let me use a great axe and a shield, I like great axes and i like shields why cant i use them?" simple, it's not what is intended by the developers. The game has options, you want to tank and use axes go ahead be a warrior, you want shield then be a paladin, saying you can't do both is a bit childish. What next we will complain that you can't have more materia than slots or cant add more than the cap to make it as good as allagan gear? People need to learn that the game is young has a design and a future planned out. They made you have this choice for stat allocation because it will be a choice in how you want to play with what is offered. as most people say SMN is INT and SCH is MND, then why not remove stat allocation fully and just give is solid stat boosts instead?
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