My OT keep taking my Aggro

[IveraIvalice]

Yeah sounds like the OTs problematic could be your gear is less then his and if he has relic zenith and you don't that could be tough for you too but any good tank should be holding off if they are taking hate and if they are to then they're bad. Its kind of annoying that we don't have any combos that don't generate hate but it's a plds job to know that the moves they do generate hate even in sword oath.

In ultima I usually just do my normal MT stuff to keep hate hardcore and when 3 stacks come up I instantly stop everything and just stand there until the other tank provokes and then I switch with him, sometimes I still pull hate for a second with just my auto attack but from there I just auto attack and cast stone skin on the tank a bunch until it's my turn up again. But that's kuz of the sword to shield oath glitch. I haven't done it since that's been fixed but I plan to switch to sword oath at 3 stacks then switch with the tank and do some combos sparingly and continue casting SS on the other tank until 2 stacks has been up for alittle while, then switch the shield oath and just auto attack till 3 when I switch again. Point being, when your OTing you goal is to not take hate from the MT. And when your up again the other tank should be doing the same

[Kadas]

Go on strike and refuse to tank, that's what I do in CT when low geared tanks attempt to get hate. I let them, stop tanking, they die and either learn their lesson or end up dying again

[Kelberos]

Yeah - the bloodlust can sometimes get to some tanks and they forgot why they are there.

I generally just shrug it off and hit the target with BB combos over and over. I will even sacrifice SE and SP combos if i know the OT is 1 combo away from stealing aggro. I figured the healers can take the slight increase in damage taken - or ill pop a cooldown to compensate. You can generally blow past them quite easily if you pop a cooldown or two.

[Cligue]

When I am about to swap hate to the other tank I will stop all of my dps about 3 seconds before he provokes, let him get hate then switch to sword oath and wait about 10 seconds before doing anything else. This gives the other tank time to build up a good hate lead on me so I can then contribute as much dps as possible. If you are not in voice coms with the other tank use macros with sounds ie. provoking in 3!! <se.1>
And let the other tank know before you start the fight that he needs to stop all dps when he sees that and to not start back up dps till about 10 seconds after you have hate.

Big thing That can mess up tank swaps is having to dodge an aoe as the mt right after you got hate. If the ot does not and is still dpsing he will pull hate, that is why the fail proof way is to just have him sit there for 10 seconds after swap.

[Maelwys]

Big thing That can mess up tank swaps is having to dodge an aoe as the mt right after you got hate. If the ot does not and is still dpsing he will pull hate, that is why the fail proof way is to just have him sit there for 10 seconds after swap.

That seems like overkill to me.

I can't think of many circumstances in the game where dodging a Boss ability would make a Main Tank have to run so far away that they couldn't just keep using Melee weaponskills.
I can think of even less circumstances where a MT would have to dodge such a distance and an OT wouldn't.

Furthermore, most endgame fights are heavily scripted and predictable... so non-emergency tank swaps should nearly always be timed so that they DON'T coincide with any dodgeable AoE attacks.

You're right that stopping all DPS for a period both before and after a Provoke would be almost foolproof (in terms of enmity trading between the two tanks) but ~13 seconds of the "Original" Tank contributing no DPS at all seems a little bit overkill to me. Particularly for fights with DPS checks - WARs and PLDs both have a good deal of Spike DPS they can throw at a Nail, a Gaol or a Conflag. Though I suppose you could just use that period of downtime to spam Stoneskin on everyone...

[Cligue]

Sorry let me be more clear, you can stoneskin nstuff I was just saying do not dps, this is more for playing with randoms btw when you might be i90 and the other tank i75.

I know tanking fights that I am way overgeared for even after 10 seconds of down time I have come close to pulling hate back and had to stop again. Like everything in game situation dictates your actions. And most dps checks in the game are actually not on the boss but adds/objects where hate does not matter, so the ot can always go hard.

[Soulburn32]

1. If your in OT position alternating between Riot Blade and full Halone combos is normally enough to never pull aggro. 2 Riot combos for everyone 1 full Halone is enough to keep the STR debuff up and never pull hate.
2. If your about to swap out in the next few seconds as the MT stop doing full BB or RoH combos. If you switch into Riot or Storms Combos for 1-2 cycles as your about to swap there will never be a hate issue.