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  1. #1
    Player
    3rdeye's Avatar
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    Liam Kay
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60

    My OT keep taking my Aggro

    I have an alt as war,and just starting to seriously master it after my dragoon full i90.

    So now i was doing ultima. When i was tanking, after i did my butcher block enmity combo. I put storm eye and path buff combo. Its a 10% less damage and push slash damage up also, so it certainly will help the party. Did inner beast a couple times for damage mitigation.

    The problem comes on when buff combo progressing or i inner beast. A couple times my paladin friend keep stealing my aggro. Then i notice all the time as OT, he did his enmity combo (halone) to dps ultima, eventhough he's in sword oath stance.

    I remind him, but his feedback is i cant maintain my aggro, and should do just my enmity combo only.

    So enlight me,do i just have to spam enmity combo when MT ing, and put no buff at all? or you can recommend something for my friend. I new to tanking, and have no sufficient knowledge on paladin (i build my pld only to 22 for provoke). What do you paladins do actually when OTing ?
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    zaineal's Avatar
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    Character
    Zaein Nathunal
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 69
    Its his fault for not watching his hate.

    Im not sure if they fixed the shield oath - .> sword oath bug yet as that might contribute to it as well. Tell him to watch the hate and hold back.
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    start pull with infuriate > unchained > berserk if you have to

    open with butchers, follow with storm's path

    but if you are ever having that much trouble with aggro, it is not going to kill you to just not use storm's path/eye combo until you have a good lead.
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    Character
    Square Pusher
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Paladin OT need to use Riot Blade combo (while maintain halone debuff). So, it was probably his fault. On your end, you should keeup -10% damage debuff, however the +10% slashing debuff is not required if you are MT
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    JeTaisNoobie's Avatar
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    Eborel Kreuz
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    The consequences of a dead team due to losing aggro is greater than the consequences of losing a debuff on the boss just to mitigate a little bit of damage.
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    Amardis Amariyo
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    your friend did not watch aggro, but on the other hand, it is true that PLD just doesn't have any OT combo
    spaming riot blade which cost 70+80 TP will drain TPs of PLD very quickly
    the best advice would be, telling him to spam some stone skins on you along with maintaining halone debuff and replenishing his mana with riot blades
    that way he wont run out of TPs/MPs, wont pull agro + helps healers a bit

    i usually focus target MT and use macro
    /micon "Stoneskin"
    /ac "Stoneskin" <focus>
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    Last edited by Geobryn; 01-22-2014 at 11:28 PM.

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    Character
    Darzok Rinnegan
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Its a fairly common problem when running with a pld seems they all forget to do any thing but halone and that starts to become a common problem when with any random pld ot i get it all the time in CT on the last boss.

    Its odd that i never have the problem with a random War doing it but all ways random PLD guess its since they only need to use halone when tanking and forget about all other attacks apart form def cool downs.

    The only thing you can do is ask them in a nice way to keep an eye on there hate but if you get the same kind of pld i get when tanking most of them will call you a noob or worse and only a few will hold back a little.
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    Snorgrind's Avatar
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    Character
    Momiji Inubashiri
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    let PLD MT = problem solved
    it was even more anoying before patch when they didnt know about the sword oath aggro bug
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Snorgrind View Post
    let PLD MT = problem solved
    it was even more anoying before patch when they didnt know about the sword oath aggro bug
    Until the PLD hits 5 stacks and dies.
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    Character
    Momiji Inubashiri
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Until the PLD hits 5 stacks and dies.
    let him die if he cant watch his aggro

    same with some WARs that do SE-BB-BB rotation when OTing instead of SE-SP (even seen some in CT that use berserk and unchained on pull just to pull aggro from MT) or PLDs spaming RoH + FoF on tank switch, game is full of them. On the other hand atleast they know how to use combos, seen so many tanks spaming RoH or BB without comboing it
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    Last edited by Snorgrind; 01-23-2014 at 05:14 PM.

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