I havn't read the whole thread, since it is at over 200 posts already but I agree with the OP. A time limit is just silly. SE needs to understand that PEOPLE are playing this game, and when it comes to people expect the unexpected. I can't imagine a worse scenario than one of the group members having a minor emergency that forces them to step away for 10-15 minutes, which could be the difference between victory or defeat. Even worse if there is a long cool-down period after each dungeon attempt, failures included.
What I CAN agree with is an optional timer for bonus rewards, but even then I am still against it. Why add an unneeded layer of "difficulty", forcing players to rush through the dungeons, eyes on the timer the whole time, never stopping to socialize or make battle strategies? I understand that these first few dungeons are probably designed to be finished in well under an hour but to add a forced time limit is something I can not endorse. From the screenshots that were posted on the Lodestone, the dungeons look to be very beautifully designed and should be enjoyed thoroughly.

I'm not sure exactly what to think about this time limit. My knee jerk reaction was kinda "wtf?" but I don't know what's in it yet or how it's going to play so it's hard to know if that feeling was justified or not.
I hope there's thoughtful content within these dungeons, not just something shallow that's just content for the sake of content. We'll see soon I guess.

Everyone is aware that this is one of many instances/Raids to come? Did you really expect a 5 hour raid for the 1st one released? If so, you are an idiot. It's new content, on a new system. It's been changed from top to bottom pretty much since day 1. There would be so many problems. Quite frankly, I'm not worried about raids in the future. SE knows how to make time consuming group based objectives. For example. Does anyone remember how long some Dynamis's would be? Better yet, camping kings every day, grinding. SE is the master of wasting time. They will make some time consuming raids. Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.
Frankly in this time limit I thought we'd have at least 5 dungeons already in the game that are longer than 5hrs.Everyone is aware that this is one of many instances/Raids to come? Did you really expect a 5 hour raid for the 1st one released? If so, you are an idiot. It's new content, on a new system. It's been changed from top to bottom pretty much since day 1. There would be so many problems. Quite frankly, I'm not worried about raids in the future. SE knows how to make time consuming group based objectives. For example. Does anyone remember how long some Dynamis's would be? Better yet, camping kings every day, grinding. SE is the master of wasting time. They will make some time consuming raids. Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.
Also you're calling people idiots but at the same time you expect that SE has learned anything good from developing XI?
Oh the irony ...


Dungeon only take about 30min anyways so why you complaining about the time limit? i hope there also a limit you can do per day which make ppl not get all the best gear within 1-2hour of it release. If you think it going to be wow you should just quit this is not Blizzard this is SE that how they do there events with time limit and how many you can do per day. So please stop the b******* you never going to have something without time limit and that a good thing make us enjoy the dungeon more then just spam spam spam oh look got all my gear forget that dungeon now.
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You people try to find anything just to complain Time limit make it so you don't get all the dam gear within 1day. I bet they be a limit how many you can do per day also which mean you be doing them more then just one day. I'm sure they even have quest and puzzle and other thing you need to get in the dungeon to make you go there more and more. Which is better then wow you go in do them 1-10+ times get your gear never see the light of the dungeon again.
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Everyone that wants dungeons super badly go play Dungeon Siege 3, it's out and super fun!

Downside to that is that 5 minutes after the reset you'd have 90% of the server lined up outside. The guildleve counter was crowded as hell every 36 hours, if I recall correctly. Better to have personalized resets that spread out the crowd.
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Lol Thought I would check the numbers again.. 32 to 78 Looks like Time Limits are still the way to go..
Time Limit = Replay Value
No Time Limit = One Run
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