Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Xenor]

I understand that concern. But elitist shells are going to be elitist shells regardless. Forcing them to take 8 wont solve that to be honest. All it does is hurt LSs who have seen LS numbers dwindle and have trouble summoning 8 members reliably.

I'm more concerned about the number of people that will be excluded from the content due to the low party size limit. Currently when my LS runs NMs we can have anywhere from 8 to 24 people come for the event. If 14 turn up we do two groups of 7. With these raids and the 8 player requirement you've then got six people sitting picking their noses while the other 8 have fun.

Of course you can "exploit" that requirement by bringing along filler mules which I'm sure will happen and I'd have no problem doing if it gets me to play the game rather than sit doing nothing.

[Sigmakan]

I'm more concerned about the number of people that will be excluded from the content due to the low party size limit. Currently when my LS runs NMs we can have anywhere from 8 to 24 people come for the event. If 14 turn up we do two groups of 7. With these raids and the 8 player requirement you've then got six people sitting picking their noses while the other 8 have fun.

I share your exact concerns. What are the chances of having exactly 8 people show up for "dungeon-night"? Very low. You'll most likely have more or less. Quite an odd game design decision to be honest.

Also, if its as difficult as they claim, then picking up Random Joe will most likely be detrimental to the completion of the dungeon.

One more point, if the gear is as awesome and rare as SE claims then most of the time LSs will want some of loot system (formal or informal). Even more reason to not invite Random Joe.

There are so many reasons to NOT have a minimum party size, yet none for having a minimum req.(well, peregines concern about elitism, I'll agree to disagree on that point).