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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    Abriael what you may possibly not be understanding by "copy paste" is that it's an over-exaggeration of "similar" environments.
    Over-exaggeration and hyperbole are the telltale of trolling. Reality is reality, hyperbole is a distortion of reality.

    By the way, having a set of assets for level building is a basic staple of game development. Every single developer on earth does it.
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    ...the endless cells of this notorious dungeon once held such heinous criminals as poachers and arsonists.
    Just to point out another similarity between this and Mun-Tuy/Tam-Tara: one of the main mobs in those zones is the "poacher" mob. Mithras with face masks and Spears/Knuckles named "Toad Poacher", etc.
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    Opinions are getting to be overrated now in days :/. Without true Logical Facts (that is not even out here) everything right now is still speculation/theories. So in my opinion this whole thread is wrong till the Facts become known
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Opinions are getting to be overrated now in days :/. Without true Logical Facts (that is not even out here) everything right now is still speculation/theories. So in my opinion this whole thread is wrong till the Facts become known
    With all due respect, and I do see your point, but have you never seen a trailer of something and formed some kind of an opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedAffinity View Post
    With all due respect, and I do see your point, but have you never seen a trailer of something and formed some kind of an opinion?
    Of course, however it never went as far as bouncing back and forth saying, "oh this is how its going to be" lines yes I have seen some in this thread like. for instance " Toto-Rak looks exactly the same as Tam/Muy" What proof is there 1 Picture of a particular spot? I really can't form a well thought out Opinion with only 1 picture and a back story of the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Of course, however it never went as far as bouncing back and forth saying, "oh this is how its going to be" lines yes I have seen some in this thread like. for instance " Toto-Rak looks exactly the same as Tam/Muy" What proof is there 1 Picture of a particular spot? I really can't form a well thought out Opinion with only 1 picture and a back story of the place.
    But my entire argument here isn't that i'm assuming the entire area will be a paste of existing zones, my argument is in defense of some of us expressing our lack of enthusiasm based on what was shown. It's really simple, some people are taking our opinions and spinning it into trolling or being outright negative.

    If the areas are in fact creative from an artistic and visual point, and a sample of that was shown, I'd genuinely be excited. Yet again for what seems like the 100th time, the fact remains the two areas shown in the preview indicate areas that look inspired (god help me if i used the word copy-paste or rehash...) by areas that already exist in the game. Am I claiming the dungeons WILL be? negative. I simply don't know what the final product will be and it'd be ignorant of me to assume otherwise.

    Why is that difficult to understand? :P I'm not impressed with the preview, end of story. I'm open to being impressed with the final product, but i'm not impressed with the preview *loop*
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    Oh, I have an actual question.

    If the Black Shroud map is being redone, why are we getting a dungeon at Silent Arbor, north of Tranquil, of the old map?

    Makes me worry that it's not as big a 'redo' as mentioned :x
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    Its probably non-capped for the best. Sure people can blast through at level 50, but they could always switch to a lower level job just to play the are at a recommended difficulty. Not to mention people would whine about capped areas till the end of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by EdenArchangel View Post
    Oh, I have an actual question.

    If the Black Shroud map is being redone, why are we getting a dungeon at Silent Arbor, north of Tranquil, of the old map?

    Makes me worry that it's not as big a 'redo' as mentioned :x
    It might not be a remake of the entire field, just certain sections of the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenArchangel View Post
    Oh, I have an actual question.

    If the Black Shroud map is being redone, why are we getting a dungeon at Silent Arbor, north of Tranquil, of the old map?

    Makes me worry that it's not as big a 'redo' as mentioned :x
    On that point, I don't actually remember ever reading a dev that strait out said they are Redoing the Black SHroud. I have read insinuation that it might be, and seen others post there thoughts about it, but I have never seen a dev quote that said "we are for sure redoing this entire zone of the game."

    Not saying that it hasn't happened. I just wanted to know if anyone could provide a link if they have and I missed it.

    Also, to answer your statement: The dungeons could provide the quest areas that move the story towards the zone being redone. They have seemed to want to incorporate the story to coinicide with the changes they are making.
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    Last edited by Biggs; 06-21-2011 at 05:46 AM.

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    Anything to do other than what we have to do now is good. ANYTHING
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