Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Reaux]

Which is, by the way, not true. Spreading misleading information as per usual.





The two halves above are in clear contradiction.

How so? You can't offer constructive criticism to someone but not feel bad for their situation? I don't feel sorry for the company pushing this to market. But seeing as I want the game to be enjoyable and I am an un-paid beta tester I am giving the the feedback they requested. If they so choose to not take the feedback, that is ok. Once they launch the subscription model I will leave if it is unenjoyable. That is not to say in order to make it enjoyable they must listen to me and only me. I have read other suggestions and fixes that seem just as entertaining, even some that are in their planned layout.

However if the game causes them to go bankrupt, like it is currently, I won't lament.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

However if the game causes them to go bankrupt, like it is currently, I won't lament.

It's statements like this that are neither constructive or even true and this is why you get arguments from others in the community.

[Reaux]

It's statements like this that are neither constructive or even true and this is why you get arguments from others in the community.

Not untrue, SE released a statement to share holders stating that they have had severe losses and will continue to do so if they don't show stronger support for console games and garner revenue for "certain online services" So much that they also demanded each of the companies they own create at least 1 new IP in the next year. As for being constructive. This specific forum "General Discussion" is not for that. It is simply for us to discuss things. Any constructive feedback I have goes in the correct forum for it. Just as I did during closed beta testing.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Not untrue, SE released a statement to share holders stating that they have had severe losses and will continue to do so if they don't show stronger support for console games and garner revenue for "certain online services" So much that they also demanded each of the companies they own create at least 1 new IP in the next year. As for being constructive. This specific forum "General Discussion" is not for that. It is simply for us to discuss things. Any constructive feedback I have goes in the correct forum for it. Just as I did during closed beta testing.

There is a difference between the losses they are posting from their PROFITS and a company that is close to bankruptcy, and that is what makes your statement untrue. The company is not close to going bankrupt, and definitely not directly just because of FFXIV.

[Reaux]

There is a difference between the losses they are posting from their PROFITS and a company that is close to bankruptcy, and that is what makes your statement untrue. The company is not close to going bankrupt, and definitely not directly just because of FFXIV.

Continued projection of loss of profits will make them...richer?

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Continued projection of loss of profits will make them...richer?

Did I say that it would? I love how people who are wrong in what they say try to twist the words of anyone that doesn't agree with them. I will say it again, "There is a difference between the losses they are posting from their PROFITS and a company that is close to bankruptcy."

Profits are defined by money earned in EXCESS of all other costs that company has incurred. The fact that they are posting a profit means by definition that they aren't all that close to bankruptcy because they are earning enough to cover their costs and still have some profit to show for it. Not to mention that they have enough to cover the .8 BILLION yen they incurred directly as a result to the earthquakes and tsunamis.

If you spout baseless and false 'facts' then expect to be called on them.

[Reaux]

Did I say that it would? I love how people who are wrong in what they say try to twist the words of anyone that doesn't agree with them. I will say it again, "There is a difference between the losses they are posting from their PROFITS and a company that is close to bankruptcy."

Profits are defined by money earned in EXCESS of all other costs that company has incurred. The fact that they are posting a profit means by definition that they aren't all that close to bankruptcy because they are earning enough to cover their costs and still have some profit to show for it. Not to mention that they have enough to cover the .8 BILLION yen they incurred directly as a result to the earthquakes and tsunamis.

If you spout baseless and false 'facts' then expect to be called on them.

Ditto. I didn't say they were bankrupt, they were going bankrupt, bankruptcy....which is accurate when a company has a 76% loss in profits and projects that unless they get a hail mary pass they will continue in a downward decline. I love how when people complain about things being accurate don't bother to be accurate. Do they have a profit yes, are they still hemorrhaging money, yes. Just because they are not currently bankrupt saying they are headed that way is not inaccurate or false. If the recover or have recovered/are recovering in the last month or 2 since that announcement than yes and I will gladly concede defeat if you can show that to me.

But ya know what it's all fine. You continue to get angry at me and other people on the forum instead of discussing. Your comment to Rabidsquirrel was rude and uncalled for, and for someone that called for constructive criticism in the specific forum...was that really it?

[Abriael]

Continued projection of loss of profits will make them...richer?

Continuous doomsaying without any sort of base and sensationalistic, biased statements (like "every non sequel is a flop" or silly talks about bankrupcy) are what conflicts with your statement of " constructive non whiny feedback".