Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Alise]

Since he mention big PvE before, and he says that raid is not his huge PvE, so I think multiple party is possible.
however, I wonder about his post, did he mean that 1.18 will have 3 dungeon on rank 50? or it is just his wish?

[BloodLotus]

Since he mention big PvE before, and he says that raid is not his huge PvE, so I think multiple party is possible.
however, I wonder about his post, did he mean that 1.18 will have 3 dungeon on rank 50? or it is just his wish?

I think he meant that he thought a game should have at least 3 dungeons on launch, and since the original team had none of that the new team is starting from scratch.

I believe his hope is to get us stuff to do as soon as possible after laying all the groundwork down.

[Alcide]

Uhm so... 1 dungeon for r25 ppl and 1 for r50 and they have a limitation on the number of groups... well if I thought the dev team don't know what they are doing now I don't have any doubt...

Besides we can't say it's gonna be a big deal, with the current population I doubt someone is gonna have to wait to enter a dungeon...

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Uhm so... 1 dungeon for r25 ppl and 1 for r50 and they have a limitation on the number of groups... well if I thought the dev team don't know what they are doing now I don't have any doubt...

Besides we can't say it's gonna be a big deal, with the current population I doubt someone is gonna have to wait to enter a dungeon...

My only problem with this is that they have stated that Dungeons are supposed to be a viable EXP substitute for the Guildleve linkinge EXP parties we have currently. It is going to be hard to pick up a group of 4 or 8 people to grind in the dungeons if they are full, especially if they fill up fast during prime playing hours.

[Biggs]

To be clear, I would bet all the gil I have that there will be no waiting in line. FFXI managed to pull off assaults without making groups wait, and this looks to be the exact same thing. Why anyone would think they would make people reserve a spot or wait in line is beyond me. I think some of you all should take a deep breath and relax. An instance is an area created specificly for one group. They could generate dozens of the same instances at once and manage them all with little to no effort. Thats kinda the whole point..........

[LateReg]

To be clear, I would bet all the gil I have that there will be no waiting in line. FFXI managed to pull off assaults without making groups wait, and this looks to be the exact same thing. Why anyone would think they would make people reserve a spot or wait in line is beyond me. I think some of you all should take a deep breath and relax. An instance is an area created specificly for one group. They could generate dozens of the same instances at once and manage them all with little to no effort. Thats kinda the whole point..........

Well, the fact that Yoshida said there might be problems with having to wait in line in a recent post, coupled with the fact that their current server software renders them unable to implement simple things like additional LS functionality and group searching is the reason why people are worried, and rightfully so.

It was, what, 8 months before they fixed Ward crashes?

[Spellstar]

To be clear, I would bet all the gil I have that there will be no waiting in line. FFXI managed to pull off assaults without making groups wait, and this looks to be the exact same thing. Why anyone would think they would make people reserve a spot or wait in line is beyond me. I think some of you all should take a deep breath and relax. An instance is an area created specificly for one group. They could generate dozens of the same instances at once and manage them all with little to no effort. Thats kinda the whole point..........

Correct in a way, although instances cannot be created ad-infintum.

Server capacity dictates an ultimate number of simultaneous instances, and while it is rare, on many MMO.s you must queue sometimes if they are full (even on wow especially on patch days with a new dungeon you sometimes have to wait for an instance'd dungeon even with a full party because the server has created its maximum number of instances of that dungeon).

For exmaple, instanced content on lord of the rings online is approx 250 instances at once.

[KumaAkuma]

The reason why there are various limitations is due to the problems with instance occupation and content occupation. I have every intention of wanting to avoid making people wait in line for instances that are occupied by parties that do not meet the number of members or rank to be able to clear a dungeon.

No one is frustrated with this part? Really? Waiting in line to enter dungeons shouldn't be happening anymore these days...
Limitations? What there aren't enough servers? No monies for servers? These dungeons don't have to run on the same servers as the "World" servers. They're instances...

[zaviermhigo]

*thinks back to XI when we waited in line for stuff* classic SE

[kwestro]

Some people on this forum are like the media; always looking at things pessimistically or focused on the worst case scenario.