playerbase down 25% in 4 months?

[odette]

i'd suggest to SE devs to work on a endgame that is full ls event, something like sky. with lots of farming of mobs, good tactics and dynamic battles, with nm's and very hard hnm's. with drop ranging from pretty easy to very difficult from easy drop rates to 1%drop rate rewards.

as u can see a simple dungeon didn't cut it, (maybe they have a expansion in the works with something like this, i hope so) i say everyone would be logging in and enjoying this type of content if it was added. people would log in and stay loged in to do this. least that is my opinion but i'm almost certain of it.

8 and 4man dungeons don't create commrodery, it creates clicks ...and everyone else just logged back out. and this dungeon didn't help since most people didn't want anything else other then con,archer or glad. lets hope se listens to this cause i'm almost certain that no dungeons will keep most players, only the few they already have just stay a little more entertained.

No thanks
i prefer more more dungeons that crappy hnms like ffxi where you wait for hours for claim this is boring and obsolet
the real problem of ffxiv is the ffxi players that they wanna outher ffxi, with obsolet things and unatractive for new player
SE need more new players that ffxi old players that they quit ffxi looong time ago and dont like the worlds change

[Seif]

Well that's the reality of the situation. It's hard to believe things are so bad when reading these forums it seems everybody is in love with the game post 1.18.

SE's biggest difficulty is to market these changes to the people who have left because all changes by themselves are pretty minor that contribute to a bigger very slow change that we've hopefully seen the beginning of.

Airships and Chocobos are really nice but in a game that has a ( in my opinion a bad hacked in) system like anima the transportation was never a major gameplay issue to begin with for those players who were on the fence and haven't been playing non-stop to burn their massive anima pools.

I hope the are redesigns will be dramatic enough to be an effective marketing tool. If it's just more variety to trees then I'm afraid nobody will care.

[Gramul]

Okay. You guys can argue all you want. But please drop the personal insults.
It makes the discussion seem childish and unworthy of the analytical attention the subject needs.

[Rinsui]

Okay. You guys can argue all you want. But please drop the personal insults.
It makes the discussion seem childish and unworthy of the analytical attention the subject needs.

It's hard to stay analytical
in the face of an amorphous mass of
ignorance.

[Kallera]

It's hard to stay analytical
in the face of an amorphous mass of
ignorance.

What's the worthy analysis of people demanding this game be shut down against the company's wishes for the franchise?

[zaviermhigo]

Forgetting a e in a word both times, you were so close to spelling it right too. Obsolete. Who says you have to camp nms for hours when someone says they want sky. Have you ever thought they wanted a progression of killing gods, and not the camping. Oh of sky was just waiting and popping, the fight never actually happened, right? Maybe they were talking about fights. He talked about bad drop rates on that stuff, this game does 2-5 mins pops on nms with bad drops why would you even bother writing it when you know they're just going to continue making this game a gimp easy fest for people like you anyway? You guys win cause you whine so hard and incoherently and SE likes that.

[weeble]

No thanks
i prefer more more dungeons that crappy hnms like ffxi where you wait for hours for claim this is boring and obsolet
the real problem of ffxiv is the ffxi players that they wanna outher ffxi, with obsolet things and unatractive for new player
SE need more new players that ffxi old players that they quit ffxi looong time ago and dont like the worlds change

most nm's in sky were replaced with pop items, they was not waiting, and even when there was timing between them u still had a million things there to do inbetween.

and ffxi players are probably all this game has left,...outside of rmt or people that are "like rmt" ffxi players didn't ruin this game, ffxi was one of the few mmo's that did well in the years and those numbers moving from ffxi to ffxiv is a good thing. they aren't outdated and unatractive game play, they are challenging gameplay, with lots of game time to do them.

i don't want another ffxi, but if it comes down to a choice of wow gameplay or ffxi gameplay i chose ffxi. games aren't hugely changing but things that are gonna be the same ...ummm yes ffxi all the way, i don't want wow or anything of it in this game ..so what. it's not what ruin this game, it's like i said lack of content, content that takes time to do, and lack of things people can do together as a team.

how bad it's doing and how each patch less not more people come back is a sign that im probably correct, and i'm pretty sure they will head in the direction i'm thinking or game will completly die out.

[Netherblade]

Im playing this game since closed beta.... and not many of my friends of that phase are still around.
Where it was pretty even back then, the majority now are asian based players, and very little Euro players around where i can see.

Not sure where this is going... but my guess is they either need a major marketing campaign to drag people back in, or let this one go and learn from their mistakes for the next FF MMO....

[Mishow]

Gotta love it when people don't notice a troll trolling them in forums and working them up.

[Renshi]

Funny thing is that the players loss is common f*cking knowledge, and we are discussing about it and getting angry about each other about a thing that we already know what it is and that it could be closed a friggin' month ago!

And then people asks me why I spend less time in the forums...