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  1. #1
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    Nipa's Avatar
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    Nipa Mii
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I wouldn't mind have more up to date figures, particularly since last patch.
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    Excessum Leviathan
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    This will only get worser i believe.. 1 of the reasons is the extreme Mp costs on Cure. People that solo the compplete time they are on are now forced to party. As you would need a mage to get cured.
    I played lesser since the 1.18 as it just doesn't seem to be in any use to play solo anymore. And i just don't like to party up.
    The way it is now with the Mp.. It kind of is boring as you have to attack weaker mobs.
    Guess we all have to wait and see what happens with the next patches.
    But completely giving up on FF.. never There is still hope.
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    This will only get worser i believe.. 1 of the reasons is the extreme Mp costs on Cure. People that solo the compplete time they are on are now forced to party. As you would need a mage to get cured.
    I played lesser since the 1.18 as it just doesn't seem to be in any use to play solo anymore. And i just don't like to party up.
    Perhaps massively multiplayer online RPGs just aren't for you. I recommend Final Fantasy XIII, you can solo the whole game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan View Post
    This will only get worser i believe.. 1 of the reasons is the extreme Mp costs on Cure. People that solo the compplete time they are on are now forced to party. As you would need a mage to get cured.
    I played lesser since the 1.18 as it just doesn't seem to be in any use to play solo anymore. And i just don't like to party up.
    The way it is now with the Mp.. It kind of is boring as you have to attack weaker mobs.
    Guess we all have to wait and see what happens with the next patches.
    But completely giving up on FF.. never There is still hope.
    Why are ppl playing MMO's if they want to solo all the time??? You know, MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER = lots of peeps to join with. Why don't you go play offline single player RPG's instead??
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Aaah, 2-chan script kiddies that think they can produce valid statistics with an empyrical crawler.

    That crawler only tracks accounts that shown a change in the SP totals. Guess what? someone that's at 50 already and does only activities that pertain his maxed classes (NM hunting, dungeons, crafting and so forth) does NOT have any increase in SP.

    The more time goes on, the more people get to cap in all the classes they want, and dedicate themselves only to endgame activities (that in this game aren't numerous, but they do exist, and can still fill up someone's time unless he plays a lot), according to that crawler, all those people are considered "inactive".

    Good job producing a completely invalid and actually misleading statistic there. May want to apply to write on sankaku complex, lol.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 08-07-2011 at 10:55 PM.

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    Sky Box
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Aaah, 2-chan script kiddies that think they can produce valid statistics with an empyrical crawler.

    That crawler only tracks accounts that shown a change in the SP totals. Guess what? someone that's at 50 already and does only activities that pertain his maxed classes (NM hunting, dungeons, crafting and so forth) does NOT have any increase in SP.

    The more time goes on, the more people get to cap in all the classes they want, and dedicate themselves only to endgame activities (that in this game aren't numerous, but they do exist, and can still fill up someone's time unless he plays a lot), according to that crawler, all those people are considered "inactive".

    Good job producing a completely invalid statistic there.
    Hey umm..

    It doesn't track chars with full rank 50s, I built one of these script for network sites a while back and it wouldnt surprise me if they used it (or modded it). I also run a site based on in-game activity (not just SP but everything you do ingame) and things are gradually slowing down, but more like 25% over 8 months.

    But we all know you'd defend the game if it gave your cancer.


    If you dont want to believe in that, look at the producer letter compared to the last one, dropped 50% in views and NA 33%. (30k/10k respectively), interest is dying.
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    Last edited by viion; 08-07-2011 at 11:00 PM.

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    Abriael Rosen
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Hey umm..

    It doesn't track chars with full rank 50s, I built one of these script for network sites a while back and it wouldnt surprise me if they used it (or modded it). I also run a site based on in-game activity (not just SP but everything you do ingame) and things are gradually slowing down, but more like 25% over 8 months.

    But we all know you'd defend the game if it gave your cancer.
    if it doesn't track chars with full rank 50s it's even less valid. Without even mentioning all those people that don't have ALL 50s, but just the ones they want/need, and just do NMs/dungeons/crafting on their maxed clases, without gaining any SP in their lower classes.

    As for your site, that'd be a valid statistical source? because you know, "things gradually slowing down" can easily mean that people are gradually stopping to use your site (since it requires manual updates). Thought ever occurred to you?

    But we all know you'd bash this game even if it was a perfect 10/10 that made coffee and cleaned your house on top of it. It's called obsession.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 08-07-2011 at 11:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    if it doesn't track chars with full rank 50s it's even less valid. Without even mentioning all those people that don't have ALL 50s, but just the ones they want/need, and just do NMs, without gaining any SP in their lower classes.

    As for your site, that'd be a valid statistical source? because you know, "things gradually slowing down" can easily mean that people are gradually stopping to use your site (since it requires manual updates). Thought ever occurred to you?

    But we all know you'd bash this game even if it was a perfect 10/10 that made coffee and cleaned your house on top of it. It's called obsession.
    When my visitor count is increasing every day, no that doesn't occur to me.

    If it was a perfect 10/10 and made coffee, infact i dont like coffee but i'd drink it because the game would be a 10/10.

    And how would ignoring a straight 50 be less invalid? You think characters with 19x50's overrule every other character? ....... thats retarded if you think it does lol. Less than 0.1% probably have a full 50.
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    Last edited by viion; 08-07-2011 at 11:11 PM.

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    Abriael Rosen
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    When my visitor count is increasing every day, not that doesn't occur to me.
    Visitors don't necessarily involve character updates. And if your visitor counter is increasing every day, that's pretty funny how you claim that "things are slowing down". Gotta love when you contradict yourself in your obsessive need to bash this game.

    If it was a perfect 10/10 and made coffee, infact i dont like coffee but i'd drink it because the game would be a 10/10.
    You seem to drink it anyway, considering you continue to post in a forum and even mantain a site dedicated to a game that you obviously hate. Obsession much?

    And how would ignoring a straight 50 be less invalid? You think characters with 19x50's overrule every other character? ....... thats retarded if you think it does lol. Less than 0.1% probably have a full 50.
    You forgot all those people that have maxed all the classes they want/need, and that don't level other classes beyond that. They can still easily do dungeons/NM/Crafting with their maxed classes and not earn a single SP. Oops.

    Very convenient to forget them. But it doesn't fly.
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    Leenk Drakesbane
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I highly doubt the increased mp cost is directly responsible for people not playing or will cause incoming players to turn away. This is just as ridiculous as claiming that anima will cause people to turn away. No single issue of that sort is going to so easily turn away the average player.
    As for the notion that 1.18 somehow made it "too difficult" to solo... i havent had any issue soloing. You just have to be smarter than the average mob
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