They didnt fix 3 mans still?

[Kyra]

I don't give a crap about increased marks and pvp exp from solo queuing because losing to the same 3 man group over and over and over is still losing and gets old really fast.

Thought this was going to be fixed.

I play bard and que solo and infact this patch has made pvp even worse for me.

Before there would be a about an 80% chance the game was going to have a 3 man premade in it, and there was a 40% chance I would be in that premade group as a soloer. But now as a bard that never happens because im ranged DD, all the 3 man premades are tank, scholar, smn. So now im always matched against the premades every single game.

This is wack.

[Koltik]

Tbh they should have restricted the queues to 2-man only. There is no reason to allow for 3-mans imo...

[Sunako]

you can still join with 3 man premade but u get same marks than before 2.15 i think but if u join as solo u get like 2x more wolf marks

[Jamal]

The problem really isn't that the three man premade has over 9000% better chance of winning than a solo que. The increased winning rate is simply a byproduct of a bigger core problem which is queue times. As a solo que it takes forever to get a match while in a three man premade you get instaques most of the time. In 2.1 there was no incentive what-so-ever to try and endure solo que against other premades. In 2.15 the problem persists simply because premades are not penalized. Instead they actually increased the amount of exp and marks you get across all ques and enforced a weird melee ranged group comp which further increases queue times. Also by default the europe battlegroup gets shafted because we have a fraction of the servers and players that the other battlegroups have. As long as the three man premade gets more exp per hour than the miserable solo queue guy then ya dun goof'd

[deki]

Yeah, they really should restrict to SOLO queue or 4s only.

[Kyra]

Defiantly noticed an increase in queue times.

The double marks and exp is ok I guess, but would prefer no 3 man premade, and faster queue times.

[mirth12]

Defiantly noticed an increase in queue times.

The double marks and exp is ok I guess, but would prefer no 3 man premade, and faster queue times.

melee dps on aether is instant pop, ranged like like 15m tank around 2m and healer same @ around 2m all for solo

[Deca]

losing solo is about the same xp as winning with a 3man, a bit excessive imo

[LateRegi]

I would just hope people actually 4 man now. Would be a lot more interesting assuming it's double the exp/marks for 4 man queues now too?

[Deca]

I would just hope people actually 4 man now. Would be a lot more interesting assuming it's double the exp/marks for 4 man queues now too?

Just won a 4s match, received 81 marks (+5% buff). So a victory in 4s is 20% worse than a solo victory.... pretty fail.