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    Possible changes to Limit Break

    I'd like to see some changes to the limit break actions. Not so much that I want different jobs to have effectively different actions, with the exception of Bard, but different animations. I will admit that I have no idea what tank (PLD/WAR) LB animation looks like. Still, I propose:

    Paladin - a shield is displayed in front on everyone
    Warrior - party members are encased in glowing skin
    Monk- instead of it looking Like a sword, have clones come out to pummel the target
    Dragoon - drive their lance into the ground, causing a much larger one to shoot up through the target
    Black Mage - stays the same
    Summoner - summon a massive primal, not one used or fought, to hurl a fire ball (or some other element/magic) at the AOE target
    White Mage - stays the same
    Scholar - summons an army of fairies to hall and raise
    Bard - this one I want big changes to. Instead of the healing LB it currently does, change it so the bard sings a special song that increases the party's stats by 50% for 10 seconds. OR have a ballista spawn in front of them that they use on a single target.

    Again, with the exception of bard, I want the actual attack to stay the same. Casters will still do AOE damage; melee DPs still do melee damage; healers do AOE healing and resurrection; tanks do damage resistance (or whatever it is they do). I just want different jobs to have limit breaks that look like actually apply to them. I don't like Summoners randomly using a Black Mage staff, likewise with Scholars and White Mages. Bard, on the other hand, I do have a fundamental problem. Since they learn no healing magic, it does not make sense that they cast healing limit breaks. Their limit break should be something more in line with their job.
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    Last edited by DBthaONE; 01-21-2014 at 11:18 PM.
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    When I learn that FFXIV have limit break I thought each class Limit Break would be unique, so was quite disappointed that they are the same.

    Warrior - slam their axe on the ground, causing the ground to crack and rise creating a wall of stone infront of them
    Bard - a more elaborate version of their songs animation would be nice
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    Sorry I was still writing my post (length issues and whatnot), but I also want something like that for hard as well. However if it is decided that their LB should not be completely different from other jobs then that is my idea.

    Great idea for warrior too.
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    Bards should stay as they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hocchi View Post
    Bards should stay as they are.
    My problem with them staying the same that it feels disingenuous. How does a damage dealing class use a healing limit break when it learns no healing magic? If bards learned conjurer or arcanist as sub classes my feelings would be different. However now it only seems like they were given the healing limit break just to make sure they did NOT get a damage limit break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBthaONE View Post
    My problem with them staying the same that it feels disingenuous. How does a damage dealing class use a healing limit break when it learns no healing magic? If bards learned conjurer or arcanist as sub classes my feelings would be different. However now it only seems like they were given the healing limit break just to make sure they did NOT get a damage limit break.
    Because Bards are support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hocchi View Post
    Because Bards are support.
    What is support? Is that a class? Is it job? Is it a role that duty finder recognizes? Is healing a support? If so, doesn't tanking become support?
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    Bards are the only class that have a majority of their abilities while being mobile. Allowing them the DPS Limit Break would cause an imbalance since party damage is namely what fills the LB Meter. What would be the purpose of bringing any other DPS class if the Bard could maintain 95%+ uptime on its DPS and had the Limit Break to back it up?
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    Lbs could include lengthy slows/paralyzes/a short sleep that works on bosses/an instant mp recovery instead of 'ticks'/a stoneskin that soaks way more than 18% or a decent stun that doesnt count towards stun resistance, anything in the game that would be too powerful to spam but useful on occasions, so what they did for brd does seem really half-assed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide_Vanwen View Post
    Bards are the only class that have a majority of their abilities while being mobile. Allowing them the DPS Limit Break would cause an imbalance since party damage is namely what fills the LB Meter. What would be the purpose of bringing any other DPS class if the Bard could maintain 95%+ uptime on its DPS and had the Limit Break to back it up?
    Having more purpose than having 2 bards in a light party. They could always make their limit break not as strong, similar to using a caster limit break on a single target.
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