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    My life is complete.. Scholar BiS (probably?)

    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2545340/

    Finally! It was our 3rd win. Now, if only I could somehow get my hands on the Direwolf Boots of Healing..

    On a side note, after testing about 500 heals using each of Royal Boots and Allagan Shoes, I only noticed about 3 heal difference in using physick. I wonder if the Royal Boots is more worth it for the critical. Oh, and sorry about the earring, I'm usually using Hero's but for some reason forgot to switch it out this time, was having vanity fun with the entire allagan set..

    But anyway I'm so happy! Scholar BiS achieved!

    I suppose this should be what most people consider BiS (Not counting PvP gear)



    But I'm seriously considering using the Royal Boots, cause of that little experiment I did above.
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    i80 boots are BiS?

    i suppose accessories are just a matter of opinion but you could have more crit without garudas ring if thats what you're calling a scholars best stat?
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    this would be good info am trying to gear up sch to switch
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    You are close to BiS. But the SpellSpeed from Vortex is pointless to no end so you are wasting the stat and thus the Allagan Ring of Healing is much much better. The earring should also be replaced with the Hero's Earring of Healing for more Crit. Crit is better than Determination for us and you don't lose that much PEI.
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    Yeah, I mentioned that I usually wear the Hero's..Forgot to switch it off :P
    And as for the boots, I really wonder.. if you read what I tried last night, it was pretty weird but maybe I just hit my high numbers on Royal Boots that day..

    Also, I've never had any issues with MP, so I figured the Vortex Ring is better than Allagan. Why do you guys think otherwise? Just wondering though, not arguing, cause I find 0.01 GCD reduction sometimes helps me in mobile fights like Titan, or it's just my mind playing tricks on me. Also vortex ring is 11 deter, allagan is only 8.. I've got all the Allagan pieces except for Choker, so I could try a mix and match there, in fact I used to try a deter set with the tunic but after going to ifrit EX crit adloq is just so amazing.

    And @sheepy I already have the Hero's on one slot, I had to choose between 11det/11 ss vs 8det/13 piety, I sort of prefer 11 det. Or maybe you meant using pentamelded Astral Ring?
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    I run the same setup left side, with slightly different accessories (Allag earring and ring, heroes choker, bracelet and ring). With that I'm at 497 crit, surely beyond 500 you're likely better off getting Det instead?
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    That's the thing, I'm thinking because of how high a crit adloq's value actually is, I'd forsake losing 10-15 heal amounts. But I believe the difference should be fairly negligible and sufficient for all contents at the moment though.. Just got converted to crit after seeing adloq nullifying suppurations..

    Also, I don't really like allagan ring now that vortex is out. I just prefer vortex..

    Oh, I also get the feeling if you actually parsed it and count crit as 3x heals, any % of crit after a certain point of MND would definitely come on top. Just a gut feeling.. but the very nature of randomness in crits makes it inconsistent for most people, I guess.
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    you need 15 crit to beat 3 mind, so in theory allagan boots are better than royal.
    and for ring vortex is better, spell speed>piety and 3 more det, who ever say it otherwise dont play a healer.(yes, spell speed for sch isnt good but piety is worse, good sch dont rom)
    so yeah, you are "BiS", Grats.
    Personally i dont like full crit builds, never did, so i use allagan neck for more determination and i'll probablly switch myth for allagan chest when i drop one =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azell View Post
    you need 15 crit to beat 3 mind, so in theory allagan boots are better than royal.
    and for ring vortex is better, spell speed>piety and 3 more det, who ever say it otherwise dont play a healer.(yes, spell speed for sch isnt good but piety is worse, good sch dont rom)
    so yeah, you are "BiS", Grats.
    Personally i dont like full crit builds, never did, so i use allagan neck for more determination and i'll probablly switch myth for allagan chest when i drop one =/
    Way to attack people for having an opinion. I main SCH by the way. There is only a 3 DET difference between Allagan and Vortex. Vortex is the only things with SS on it that she has and that .01 that she thinks helps (even though she is allowed to have that opinion) is probably just her imagination. SS not stacked is a useless stat in my opinion and in many others. More PIE means more max MP, more Natural MP recovery and even though we don't OOM this allows for more uses of Aldoquin (sp) and thus more chances at crit shields which is the SCH specialty.

    By the way I wrote this before I noticed you switched to Allagan Boots. I prefer Royal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    Way to attack people for having an opinion. I main SCH by the way. There is only a 3 DET difference between Allagan and Vortex. Vortex is the only things with SS on it that she has and that .01 that she thinks helps (even though she is allowed to have that opinion) is probably just her imagination. SS not stacked is a useless stat in my opinion and in many others. More PIE means more max MP, more Natural MP recovery and even though we don't OOM this allows for more uses of Aldoquin (sp) and thus more chances at crit shields which is the SCH specialty.

    By the way I wrote this before I noticed you switched to Allagan Boots. I prefer Royal.
    8 DET is approximately +2HP per Physick. 11 SpS is 0.01 second off both your cast time/GCD, as well as your pet's cast time/GCD. In other words, SpS is essentially twice as effective on SCH than it is on WHM.
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