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  1. #71
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    Nox's Avatar
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    Nox Ruo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It affects them because it cheapens their "honest" wins, and it means people with poorer skill can get past what ordinarly required competent players. Since SE legitimized it its nearly impossible to do it the "legit" way now. It takes less time, but everyone would rather have loleasy rather than faster runs.
    What stops a static from doing this the normal way and not enrage mode? provided they are a full static and consider the enrage mode "cheap" they will not come across this "impossible" issue you are describing.

    As per what the OP is suggesting. I honestly don't care. it's not like T1 is difficult either, and by legitimizing T2 enrage mode the devs have made it easier for non-static groups to at least get SOME coil gear and hopefully some T4 and onward practice.
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  2. #72
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    I don't know what all the fuss is about. It doesn't harm anyone.

    Let's say they patch it tomorrow, does it change the way you do the Binding Coil of Bahamut? Does it make your gaming experience any better? All I'm getting from this thread is "We did it the hard way and they're doing it the easy way! No fair!"
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  3. #73
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It affects them because it cheapens their "honest" wins, and it means people with poorer skill can get past what ordinarly required competent players. Since SE legitimized it its nearly impossible to do it the "legit" way now. It takes less time, but everyone would rather have loleasy rather than faster runs.
    Plus, Good luck actually finding a Turn 2 normal group due to this.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by remidi View Post
    Neither were mine. I was stating facts. Sorry that you are selfish and stated so. I'd be upset if a core member in my raid team was gonna leave because we decided to use a strat he didnt like. If you took my general statement of the kinda people who think they are special snowflakes personally.....well then maybe you should stop being a special snowflake.
    You are afraid that if they fix it you wont be able to kill it. Hows that for a fact?
    As ive said in another thread, if this was Blizzard and not SE this wouldve been hotfixed a month ago.
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  5. #75
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    You are afraid that if they fix it you wont be able to kill it. Hows that for a fact?
    As ive said in another thread, if this was Blizzard and not SE this wouldve been hotfixed a month ago.
    Most people have done it passing rot and 0 click thus nullifying your argument.

    Square also said, on these forum boards, that T2 was operating as intended and the use of "0 click" is not a bug and will not be patched. Seriously, person, the company that makes the game has told you that it's not bugged and yet you question their statements? Who does that?

    It sounds like you miss Blizzard and WoW. You should go back. Leave us devolved children to our 0 clicks.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten View Post
    Most people have done it passing rot and 0 click thus nullifying your argument.

    Square also said, on these forum boards, that T2 was operating as intended and the use of "0 click" is not a bug and will not be patched. Seriously, person, the company that makes the game has told you that it's not bugged and yet you question their statements? Who does that?

    It sounds like you miss Blizzard and WoW. You should go back. Leave us devolved children to our 0 clicks.
    "Warriors are fine" Month later massive buff
    "Dark Devices are fine" Month later massive nerf
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    "Warriors are fine" Month later massive buff
    "Dark Devices are fine" Month later massive nerf
    Until that day comes or you get hired at Square to educate them on their wrong doings, it's working as intended.

    If it's that big of an issue you know how to unsub.
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  8. #78
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    bump... this is stupid easy
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  9. #79
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    It's the principle people! If everyone keeps defending it and SE keeps making content with easy mode kills or keeps decreasing difficulty that's no fun to me. It's telling me that the future content of the game will be made with no real challenge. I have just started t5 but it worries me that people seem to prefer simple boring fights to complex tough ones.
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  10. #80
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcaloid View Post
    My static group can clear turn 4 in one go, but we can still fail multiple times at turn 2. Because we only have a bard, and the tank silent is not always reliable due to animation/lag/dodging AOE. It doesn't make sense that turn 2 is harder than turn 4, which I think is why the dev decide to leave it for now.
    The content is made vastly more difficult by having the wrong jobs. Bring 2 WAR, no BRD, and a bunch of MDPS to T2 and see if you win. People complaining about tanks not getting runs sound pretty silly to my ears; my two geared jobs, WAR and DRG, are both largely unwanted for non-enrage runs.
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