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  1. #11
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    Amiantos's Avatar
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    Alkaid Hayasaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
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    You can choose not to join those groups, though they are the most common these days. I remember before joining the static I'm in now which was before Enrage mode became the norm I couldn't do a PUG T2, because people were too stupid to pass the rot correctly. Formation would be in shambles after the first passing and cause a wipe. My static was able to do the old method just fine and can do 2 healer Enrage just fine so neither of our tanks would be left out. Comes down to it just make your own PUG for t2 to do it the"correct" way or ask your static if you guys can do it the normal. There's more than one way to do something but the set in stone of doing it one way people feel it should be done "their" way. aka the way 99% of the people know it from the Mr. Happy videos.
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    You're missing the point, the point is "rage mode" is supposed to be a game ender. The fact that it isn't makes it a poorly designed mechanic even if it is allowed.
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    Xavos Laskoz
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You're missing the point, the point is "rage mode" is supposed to be a game ender. The fact that it isn't makes it a poorly designed mechanic even if it is allowed.
    If it was meant to be a game ender, why not make it insta-wipe?
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  4. #14
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    Asael Drakengard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    as it is supposed to be a game-ender
    Says who? Where was it ever mentioned that enrage in T2 is supposed to be a game-ender? T4 has an enrage that people hit all the time, so if we apply this logic in general I guess hitting the enrage on T4 should also be an instant wipe causing the party to start over.

    Either method is easy, one is just good for groups that don't have the communication, compatibility, and cohesion a practiced static will have. It's not that big of a deal.
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  5. #15
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
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    Weaver Lv 50
    I don't understand why people think this is circumventing the mechanics. If that's the case, we shouldn't be killing any node at all since it locks ADS from being able to use that ability.

    What about parties that kill all the nodes? ADS wouldn't use rot anymore (at the cost of a haste buff I believe). Is this an exploit? Some people trade which abilities to lock are they exploiting by choosing which they want to lock and not follow a black and white knowledge base?

    You're trading one set of mechanics for another (which you could lock anyway) so in the end, who cares? Why would you care anyway? Did the 0 click strat break up your marriage or something? Is your immersion being threatened? "Bads" are able to pass T2, but do you really think they will be able to pass T4?

    I mean, really, why do we gotta worry about what other people do? Gotta let it go (besides, T6-10 are due shortly where you can lord over all the "casuals" or "bads" by clearing before them).
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavos View Post
    If it was meant to be a game ender, why not make it insta-wipe?
    Because that's a lame cop out compared to just killing people harder?

    What about parties that kill all the nodes? ADS wouldn't use rot anymore (at the cost of a haste buff I believe).
    It's only possible to kill 5 of them. If you kill all the nodes, he will stil do his laser, the 5 way fire bomb (the 1 you can't do in order to do 5), and do both of them a lot more often and a lot faster (harder to dodge) and good luck silencing high voltage. Besides this, if you killed 5 nodes you'd hit the enrage timer anyway.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 01-21-2014 at 12:33 PM.

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    Teepo Egoist
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    Not going to happen. Deal with it. Nothing so bad about it.
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  8. #18
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    Ingrid Randgrior
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    You're probably one of those people who sells runs and someone is using said method to undercut you.
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  9. #19
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    Tristan Catari
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    I don't know of anyone who would buy a turn 2 kill >.>

    But aside from that, I still do Turn 2 the old-fashioned way and one-shot it weekly. It's faster and I can go on with my life.

    I get a nice chuckle out of all the PF TURN 2 ENRAGE DON'T SUCK OR GET KICKED! I mean come on, how could you suck at just spamming cure 3 and succor...
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  10. #20
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Because that's a lame cop out compared to just killing people harder?

    It's only possible to kill 5 of them. If you kill all the nodes, he will stil do his laser, the 5 way fire bomb (the 1 you can't do in order to do 5), and do both of them a lot more often and a lot faster (harder to dodge) and good luck silencing high voltage. Besides this, if you killed 5 nodes you'd hit the enrage timer anyway.
    Okay, So he still has access to 3 abilities. This still doesn't address the main point of my post:

    Why is it such a big deal? Why do we have to judge and police what others do? Why can't we just do our own things and if we see something we don't like, go find people who are like minded? Is the immersion of the oh so fleshed out and captivating coil story line being compromised? Is 0 click hoarding weapons of mass destruction?

    Do you really think that the people that use 0 click as a crutch are going to be able to clear T4? It's not like they are getting all that far.

    Why would Square patch it when T6-10 is set to release in like a week(?), if anything, they said they would nerf the previous turns when new ones came out.

    Sometimes it's better to just let some things go and not worry about what other people are doing.
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