Please patch Turn 2 enrage

[Langureion]

Sorry kiddos, but you guys need to stop using T4 as an excuse for ppl not to do enrage in T2.
T4 has a total different strategy....srsly, wake up!
There are more things ppl can and will learn from other battles besides T2, it is not the only battle in FFXIV...

/popcorn

[Dhex]

You can change class in the waiting area between turns...

The biggest issue I see is people quitting after Turn 1 and leaving a surplus of tanks trying to Party Finder a Turn 2 group; these groups generally are setup by a tank allowing them a 100% Need on any Fending gear that drops. This double skews the loot distribution among players that are not in static Coil groups - and it generally becomes a self perpetuating trend as people demand high iLv - meaning endgame tanking gear becomes more exclusive; and the problem of finding a tank or a healer becomes more difficult.

Personally I've felt the negative effects of this; but the 0 Click method is more reliable, and requires less organization. If you're the one getting that coveted Tank slot it's actually really very nice.

March will change much of this hopefully and allow Tanks and Healers without dedicated statics a chance to catch up their item level - otherwise the disparity in well equipped Tanks/Healers would be perpetuated.

[Ryios]

The point of this thread had nothing to do with if it effects me, it has to do with why SE does one thing here, and not there. Sure it annoyed me at one point, but it doesn't really affect me, so you are all right there. Im more annoyed with these points though,

E.g.
1. They nerfed Speed Runs, added blockades, and went way out of there way to prevent speed runs to stop them from happening
2. They fixed every known exploit viewed fight strategy, including the tree on the first boss in ads, and the titan HM medica trick.
3. They nerfed DD, even though they tried to save face and say they did it on accident, don't see them undoing that accident yet, when I do I'll retract this statement.
4. I know Im forgetting a bunch...

SE constantly fixes things so we do them as they are designed. Enrage strat is clearly not how it was designed. That enraged was designed to kill you. The fight is so intricate at allowing you to choose which abilities you take from the ads and which ones you let the ads keep, but then you can just say "oh we'll just wait for zero clicks and kill him while he stands there doing nothing", which to me is the same thing as glitching titan and killing him while he stands there doing nothing (which they fixed).

SE has no consitency in what they do, they cherry pick issues handling each one differently then another just like it.

I understand why people find this offensive, you have T2 on farm with enrage and didn't without enrage. You don't want to lose that, and I get it.

But it's irrelevant, it's getting nerfed, so like I'm trying to say here. It's less about turn 2 specifically, and more about why se views this to be OK and other's as needing patched.

If T5 was the fight being enrage strated and it was raining allagan weapons, you bet SE would of patched that instantly.

[GurrenLagann]

They never nerfed DD, it is a bug

Greetings,

Since the hot fix that was applied in mid-October, we've been seeing reports that the Dark Devices FATE was adjusted/changed. However, we have confirmed with the Battle team that there have been no adjustments made to this specific FATE during the hotfix or subsequent updates.

As we've read a few reports from users about what was/wasn't changed, we'd like to get more information to pass along to the dev. team. The best way to do that would be to submit a bug report with as much detail as possible so we can closely examine any issues that may have arisen.

Uh huh, bug, but said bug still exists 2 major patches later. Conspiracy.

Fates are useless anyway.

[Ryios]

Uh huh, bug, but said bug still exists 2 major patches later. Conspiracy.

[cearka]

People consider it cheap/exploitative.

it doesn't matter what "people" consider. A small group of players don't get to decide whether the strategy is legitimate or not. It only matters of the devs consider it an exploit, and as of now they do not, which means it is perfectly a legitimate strategy until they say otherwise. When the devs decide its no longer legitimate, I support their decision. But if they never do, I'll always consider it a viable strategy. Also, the idea that there is only one way to do things and that there should never be a reason to look for alternate strategies is STUPID. You may as well just watch a MOVIE if you want to remove that much player control from a GAME.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

So ppl think out of the box and those who didn't scream fix! There isn't anything wrong with strat, the simple fact SE admitted it wasn't an exploit shows that this is just finding another way to beat this turn.

I've beaten T2 every way possible from regular rot pass to stack method to enrage I see nothing wrong here, stop complaining about content just because someone was creative enough to find a new way to beat it. Especially content that's gonna be nerfed soon anyway!

[SirianGage]

Ooo not yet another one of these treads lol.. Dev team already said nothing is changing its not an exploit do it any way you want... i really love doing T2 enrage with my coil static with 2 Healers,5 DPS and 1 tank its fun and easy lol.. Have Fun..... And as stated above why should a few ppl be able to tell other ppl how to do stuff and eliminate what a ton of ppl like from the game.

[Zumi]

Obviously this fight is going to be nerfed when they put it in DF for 2.2. Makes me wonder if they will make it easier to kill, but actually make the enrage kill you. Because if they didn't you get into a lot of arguements in the DF of people who want to do it the enrage way and people who do not.

[prymortal]

Honestly DRG, Off Tank, Monk are the issue with turn 2 & ROT, unless you Eaither remove them from it Or remove ROT & change it for something else (or make it so u can take out the ROT ADS without haste, then enrage is the only option left since its always close ranged melee that are idiots not looking for it, auto passing it & then blaming everyone else for wiping. due to Rot being a bad game mechanic.

UInless/until they do something about rot or idiots, Many cant support a turn 2 patch