What is it like to be unable to clear all of the content?

[SummonerSenah]

What content has gated you, and for how long?
Primals. Since 2.1 came out.

Why are you stuck here?
I need to defeat King Moogle and Titan HM. I like to run primals with members of my FC, but not everyone is online at the same time. I could join a party finder group for learning, but I haven't done it because I'm afraid someone's going to be a d-bag about it if I don't perform perfectly. I get this feeling that a lot of groups go "Oh crap, there's a summoner," since most people seem to prefer BRD or BLM for ranged DPS.

Are you upset about this?
No, I'm not upset. I'm just jealous that a few of my FC mates have relics already.

Should any changes be made to the content to accommodate you and players like yourself?
No, I don't think that anything should be made any easier. People have passed the hard content so it's doable.

What kind of content would you like to see added in future patches for you to enjoy?
More dungeons!

[Maye]

It makes me very angry. Like viciously angry. So angry that if I were to state how I felt about how the Titan EX fight is impossible for me to do because of the "everyone stops attacking/moving for 3 seconds now let's play catch up" lag I would definitely be banned.

If the Development teams make another fight like Titan again...

First, which Titan?

Second, you think that fights should be tuned so as to allow for packet drops(like yours)? All of them, or just some?

[NickSeng]

What content has gated you, and for how long?

Previously, it was Praetorium. Now it's Titan HM

Why are you stuck here?

I'm super casual, so I only play during the weekends using Duty Finders. So ... yeah. Most of the time, I let the DF queue for over 3 hours before quitting in frustration.

Are you upset about this? (if so - why? and how can content be added for more hardcore players such as myself without upsetting you.)

Not really about hardcore/casual, but just wish DF was more friendlier with people with limited time like me. I don't mind hard content, but queueing 3 hours and not getting in a dungeon (or getting into a dungeon which people leave after the first wipe) is really disheartening

Should any changes be made to the content to accomodate you and players like yourself?

Not to the content, but to the DF

What kind of content would you like to see added in future patches for you to enjoy?

Just better DF

Please include any other information you think might be relevant.

I do wish people who are doing DF have a bit more patience, especially tanks. I know withdrawing after a few wipes is not a big deal to you as you can always get back in relatively quickly, but think of the dps who had to wait hours to get in.

[MurakumoMillennium]

if I wanted my gameplay limited I'd be subbed to EVE again.

So limited you can progress while offline.

[Jinrya-Geki]

First, which Titan?

Second, you think that fights should be tuned so as to allow for packet drops(like yours)? All of them, or just some?

Both versions. I never had a problem with Hard Mode Titan. Then the Data Centers pop up and then I suddenly have this terrible 3 second lag where everything stops. Then immediately speeds through several animations which even when I run know what's coming I still get hit.

It needs to be cut down. There are far too many animations.

[Azurewrath]

Only thing I haven't cleared is T5. And that's cause we havent had a lot of practice, and it's hard as hell.

How do i feel about this? Great, if there's nothing at all that's a challenge, I feel the game might lose some appeal. There should always be something to reach for.

I'd actually be happy if they kept t5 as is in 2.2 and added even tougher content, but I know they won't do that because they dont wanna make a full paqtch of content only 2% of the population can beat

Regardless, i love challenges

[SilverRhythm]

Partially answering OP but I also want to give an advise to all the players here who are stuck at Turn 5.

Turn 5 was the most difficult and took hell lots of time to conquer it for me.

I really am glad to see many people who thinks Turn 5 is a worthy challenge that they are very happy with the challenge. I was like one of you all. But just a word of advise, I went through 3 months and 3 weeks of countless failures, wipefest and slaughter by twintania in every phase and finally beaten it. It is going to definitely keep you all happy with the challenge but only for a short time till u realize that u have spent too much time on just getting wiped by it.

My advise: If your current static group is not going to go any further, I suggest you move on to find another group. Group after group till you find a group that can give you progress through turn 5. Try not to spend hours keep trying, best is keep it to an hour a day unless you find out that by every try you are actually progressing. Don't try too hard but keep up a satisfying momentum and keep seeking for progress.

I assure you when you beat Twintania, you will definitely feel that sense of achievement, something that 95%+ of the people in every world is unable to achieve. The sweetness of victory awaits you.

My suggestion: Turn 5 should not be nerfed or buffed, it is already pretty good as it is now. But as new contents released and requires beating turn 5 to progress in storyline, then a nerf is needed.

[Maye]

My advise: If your current static group is not going to go any further, I suggest you move on to find another group. Group after group till you find a group that can give you progress through turn 5. Try not to spend hours keep trying, best is keep it to an hour a day unless you find out that by every try you are actually progressing. Don't try too hard but keep up a satisfying momentum and keep seeking for progress.

While I definitely agree with pushing for progress is the way to go, I feel like cherry picking groups would have cheapened the experience for me. I did a lot of T5 pugging inbetween to learn other strategies and gain experience for myself to help the group, and in fact I actually cleared T5 in a semi-PUG on a Sunday night before clearing with either of my static groups... but it felt a lot better to clear it with my statics.

I think what's most important is to make sure that you and your static group are on the same page.

Yes: everyone wants to clear T5 and obtain the loot. But how much time and effort do you want to put into this? Can you withstand constructive criticism for the sake of improving as a player? etc. I think the most frustrating experience is to want to play and practice and clear an encounter... but your group just wants to call it a week after T4.

[Jilse]

I guess I'm seeking to understand the type of player who says "this is too hard for me" and sets their own limitations? I can understand "I'm busy doing other things with my life" or "I'm working on it" -- There's a lot of debate on this forum that goes on about how "everyone should be able to clear the content" which directly contradicts challenge(beaten by time invested/player ability/etc) -- and I can definitely understand the "I want new, harder, shinier content" side of things, but I don't understand what kinds of content the other side of the fence would like introduced.

You could answer your own question as well as close the so called gap in your own FC by asking those casual players there this question, instead of taking it to strangers on the OF. If there is a disconnect within your own FC over this issue, you should address it as the leader. Ask them how they feel, as well as input on how to fix things. Do not offer to "carry" anyone though, simply help them learn and overcome the content they are having trouble with, so they can help others. Like, in my FC, we have yet to do coil yet, mainly because we only have like 7 active members (if anyone looking to join, we are casual, learning FC on Balmung), but also we want everyone to be comfortable in their roles before we start running in. Some have ran coil as pugs, and thats cool cause it gives us some knowledge of what to expect.

I think what I am trying to say is basically do a grass roots type meeting within your own FC, you may be surprised at the results.

[Grailer]

SO lets see , you have a hard days work at the stock exchange and want to relax into your favourite MMO for some fun .. BAM WHAM BAM beat up / wipe on titan EX ... bam wack ... you feel even more stressed than when you were working.

They need a balance between crazy hard content and enjoyable content which provides enough challenge to keep you entertained .