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  1. #31
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    Dark-Saviour's Avatar
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    Dark Saviour
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    I think playing with PUGs is unfun for anyone. Especially in the dutyfinder when you know you'll never see the other players again, there's no space to socialize or even improve as a group.
    Do you think you'd be more interested in the more difficult content if you found a group of like-minded people to play it with?


    Yes and no. I personally prefer the notion of 'jump-in-and-play' gameplay and loathe pre-grouping and all that jazz. And I strongly feel that players should find those they enjoy playing with the most amongst the entire community.
    So yes, a group of 'likeminded players' would improve things in the sense that, if I could find the gems of the community in the first place, content in general would be more fun.

    However, in the sense of joining an essentially random and insular selection of players that simply share a single common point of interest? No. That is why I can't stand guilds; that type of arbitrary insularity and splintering of the community just reduces the chance to find the people you'd enjoy playing with the most.

    Yet even if I did manage to find the players I would have the most fun with amongst the community, I'd have more fun doing laid-back stuff rather than 'challenging' myself with all the tiresome end-game stuff.

    Honestly not sure what you mean here. Do you mean like 1 tank 3 dps 1 healer = 1 party ? instead of 1-2-1

    Essentially.
    When queue proportions go too out of whack, the game should start putting together parties with 6 DPS, 1 healer and 1 tank (for 8-mans), then scale the difficulty accordingly.

    Did you ever play Guildwars2 ? I thought jump puzzles were a nice touch that anyone could enjoy.

    I did.
    Absolutely loved the game... that they described prior to release.
    What we got was an underwhelming mess in my opinion, with mere bits of brilliance here and there.

    The jumping puzzles were a great concept; most were just not executed that well (seriously... A stray brick that a Charr can not even physically fit on should not be a valid jump). The Obsidian Sanctum though... Now THAT was what the rest of the game should have taken a cue from... Well, except for the PvP part... That basically turned what would have been my favourite area in the game into a place I refused to ever return to after getting my achievement... The atmosphere, the sense of scale, and the beauty of that place though... Good stuff. The mini-dungeon in Dredgehaunt Cliffs was another amazing place.

    Stuff like that, rather than more and more combat (seriously, its shoved even into treasure hunts) would be more than welcome.
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  2. #32
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    SilverRhythm's Avatar
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    Adun Centennial
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    SO lets see , you have a hard days work at the stock exchange and want to relax into your favourite MMO for some fun .. BAM WHAM BAM beat up / wipe on titan EX ... bam wack ... you feel even more stressed than when you were working.

    They need a balance between crazy hard content and enjoyable content which provides enough challenge to keep you entertained .
    Maybe instead of BAM WHAM BAM beat up by titan, an enough and fun challenge I have a suggestion, a MAZE dungeon that your party members gets separated into random corners of the Maze and try to find out on how to get to the middle with the minimap and map disabled automatically :P with monsters all awaiting in your way to beat it.
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  3. #33
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    Jilse Wynden
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grailer View Post
    SO lets see , you have a hard days work at the stock exchange and want to relax into your favourite MMO for some fun .. BAM WHAM BAM beat up / wipe on titan EX ... bam wack ... you feel even more stressed than when you were working.

    They need a balance between crazy hard content and enjoyable content which provides enough challenge to keep you entertained .
    Your first issue is wanting to relax with Titan Ex. That not a stress reliever by any means. Do some easier content, like CT or Thornmarch. King Moogle is fairly fun fight with a somewhat challenging aspect to it. So I am confused, do you want fun, challenging alternatives or to make the Titan Ex easier?
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  4. #34
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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    I've quit WoW because I never managed to beat any of the raids besides Throne of Four Winds and Dragon Soul
    By the time the last tier launched, no one did the ones I actually cared anymore (even with big numbers, mechanics still wiped groups, and no reward was worth the hassle).
    I care about the lore and not beating the guy who's pulling the strings completely ruins it for me.

    I was afraid I'd be in that situation here too but...
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverRhythm View Post
    My advise: If your current static group is not going to go any further, I suggest you move on to find another group. Group after group till you find a group that can give you progress through turn 5.
    ...playing with friends > beating Twintania.

    I don't mind wiping on her for months if that means doing it with the people I'm playing now. I hope they think like me.
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    Last edited by Ri_ri; 01-21-2014 at 01:21 PM.

  5. #35
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    N'kilah Razhi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    What content has gated you, and for how long?
    Turn 4 and 5, Extreme Titan and Extreme Ifrit. I dunno how long though.

    Why are you stuck here?
    Lack of available people in FC to take the time to work on it. Parties through DF/PF almost never work out.

    Are you upset about this? (if so - why? and how can content be added for more hardcore players such as myself without upsetting you.)
    Not really. It's not Square Enix's fault I'm too stubborn to leave my friends seek out an FC that suits my interest, or my poor luck with random groups.

    Should any changes be made to the content to accommodate you and players like yourself?
    Not for current content. Any changes that need to be made lie with myself. I rather not see difficult content made easier because then it's not enjoyable when I do get a chance to do it.

    What kind of content would you like to see added in future patches for you to enjoy?
    Multiple difficulties for content; one which is easier and can be done through duty finder, and one that is difficult and cannot be done through duty finder but drops higher level loot. For example, duty finder version of Binding Coil that gives ilevel 70-80 loot, or a non-duty finder version of CT that's much more challenging and drops ilevel 100 loot. While I prefer the challenge, stuff like this is helpful as a learning experience and allows more people to see content. This should be available when the content goes live and not later on, however, so that people don't feel they're just rehashing content.
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    Last edited by Espon; 01-21-2014 at 01:24 PM.

  6. #36
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    Devilray's Avatar
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    Devilray Asura
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    What content has gated you, and for how long?
    No content. The only content left are maps/crafting which is completely optional.
    Why are you stuck here?
    Refer to above.
    Are you upset about this? (if so - why? and how can content be added for more hardcore players such as myself without upsetting you.)
    Yes and No. I do like that i can take the whole week off after beating everything. Can sell Ex primals for a lot of money too.
    Should any changes be made to the content to accomodate you and players like yourself?
    Yes, the game as it is is currently too easy, but it will become harder I am sure in the future with more content.
    What kind of content would you like to see added in future patches for you to enjoy?
    Needs better weapons that are worth striving for. All the gear is boring. Needs FFXI relics which only 1% of the playerbase can get that are worth showing off.
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  7. #37
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    Stuck on T2 of Coil for a while now because I don't have a group to play with. REASON: FC is not ready to start this.
    Stuck on EM Garuda...no one to do it with...no one wants to do it and PUG DF groups are 99.9% Fail.
    Stuck on Moggle...no one to do it with...PUG groups have gotten me close but not yet.

    Working on WHM RELIC now...already have BARD Relic and Dragoon Relic.
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  8. #38
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    Irisa Phoenix
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    What content has gated you, and for how long?
    No content. The only content left are maps/crafting which is completely optional.
    ...
    Yes, the game as it is is currently too easy, ...
    Dear Sir,
    I think you have mis-read the title of the thread.

    It is "What is it like to be unable to clear all of the content?"

    You are sadly not the demographic in question. Unless..... there is another reason for your post.... Is there?
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  9. #39
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    Adun Centennial
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Playing with friends > beating Twintania.

    I don't mind wiping on her for months if that means doing it with the people I'm playing now. I hope they think like me.
    I agree with this, but I forgot to add-in that this is only applicable for Turn 5. It always feels great to fight a battle with your own static and friends, but the advise mainly is don't try too hard because personally I have tried too hard and realized that I have lost so many things to catch up ingame and in RL.
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  10. #40
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    Eadieni Valefor
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I've cleared all the content but I wanted to kind of discuss what some friends have had problems with.
    Titan, Titan Extreme. The issue they have is latency. They dodge it on their screen (and I SEE them do it, because they die out of the effects). And it very much pisses them off because they are a good player, they are skilled, but their internet doesn't allow fast enough reactions to twitch content and it gates them. And they are absolutely upset about it.

    What I'd like to see, is, fights based more on strategy, positioning, etc, rather than ping. Twintania is a great fight. It's all about strategy and only minimally about ping except for Divebombs/Twisters.

    FFXI boss fights ping was almost irrelevant but some of the bosses were incredibly difficult.
    So, less Twitch Ping Based boss fights and more fights focused on roles and responsibilities. As in, more learning strategy less being able to react fast
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