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    Nosiahk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    Actually, turn 5 wasn't downed until 2 months after release and the whole group were il85+

    and it was a legacy group who pretty much had 8 weeks of allagan drops + myth.
    This is correct and I agree. BG were i85+ when they first beat T5. All these other posters are either bunch of trolls or speaking out of their asses like they know it. Either have a party full of i80+ or you'll be facing your desk countless of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    This is funny. People beat Coil a month after release. When people only had 1 or 2 myth pieces. Coil is entirely possible in darklight. average item level 70-75.
    Coil T1 - T4 is possible with just ilvl 70 - 75. People did not beat coil after a month of release. You should've said people beat "T1 - T4." To legitimately beat coil you also have to clear T5 for your information. Rochetm was speaking of T5. Your reply is irrelevant to what you quoted.
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    Last edited by Nosiahk; 01-21-2014 at 12:24 PM.

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    Ayase Natsume
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    Our static's first Turn 5 kill had our average ilvl at around 82-85. As long as you have at least around ~4K HP as a healer/DPS, you should be fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    This is funny. People beat Coil a month after release. When people only had 1 or 2 myth pieces. Coil is entirely possible in darklight. average item level 70-75.
    This is also funny for a couple of reasons:

    1) It took BG ~2 months after release to down Turn 5, not to mention their average ilvl at the time was around the low-mid 80s.
    2) With ilvl 70-75 for DPS, have fun hitting that enrage timer or consistently dying to fast conflags.

    Also, don't spout nonsense about the "entirety" of Coil being possible in Darklight especially when you personally haven't not downed Turn 5 yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayasee View Post
    Also, don't spout nonsense about the "entirety" of Coil being possible in Darklight especially when you personally haven't not downed Turn 5 yet.
    1-4 is possible with that. Only twintania isnt.
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    Azran Hayat
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    This is funny. People beat Coil a month after release. When people only had 1 or 2 myth pieces. Coil is entirely possible in darklight. average item level 70-75.
    The first clear group professed to spending 20 hours a week or more on the encounter, I am sure everyone else is willing to do that, yeah, it's just so easy! Just roll in with ilvl75 gear, what could go wrong?

    The fact is in this game your avg ilvl is completely OUT OF your hands. You are weekly myth cap and rng drop capped. Just go in and try it, the game is poorly designed as far as gearing goes and you can't be looking for a magic number you might actually never reach
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    Dante Prime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    The first clear group professed to spending 20 hours a week or more on the encounter, I am sure everyone else is willing to do that, yeah, it's just so easy! Just roll in with ilvl75 gear, what could go wrong?

    The fact is in this game your avg ilvl is completely OUT OF your hands. You are weekly myth cap and rng drop capped. Just go in and try it, the game is poorly designed as far as gearing goes and you can't be looking for a magic number you might actually never reach
    you are completely wrong, anyone who leveled a single class to 50 and then capped myth every week since release should be i88 by now,I have full warrior af+1 and heroes accessories. getting high iLevel is pretty easy, especially now that you can do the extremes for i90 accessories. if you put in the bare minimum each week and just capped myth even a casual player should easily be able to gear themselves.
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    Kizuna Astin
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    while the first group that clear it has less than or = ILV 80, it did take them what, a few month of training and a perfect play to beable to kill it.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remn View Post
    while the first group that clear it has less than or = ILV 80, it did take them what, a few month of training and a perfect play to beable to kill it.
    Because they had to figure out the mechanics of the fight. It is 2014, if you have the DPS and your tank has appropriate gear to survive DS you can beat it. If BG beat it in i80, then it is currently beatable in i80 as you have the DPS and all the mechanics are out there. If you can't get past the mechanics, it's not your gear's fault at that point.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remn View Post
    while the first group that clear it has less than or = ILV 80, it did take them what, a few month of training and a perfect play to beable to kill it.
    If you actually watched the video you would see there were a few deaths in their first clear, hardly perfect

    ilevel doesn't account for crafted gear so it's a worthless benchmark. You need certain amounts of hp and dps to clear, and meet accuracy caps.

    It also treats all gear as equal, a person with full i90 accessories and mostly dl armor isn't much better than full dl
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    Last edited by SarcasmMisser; 01-21-2014 at 10:43 AM.

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    Neo Anderson
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    The players who haven't beat t5 are not hard core. So you can't use hardcore players to compare them.
    You can do it at lvl80 or less if you know what you doing or has done it before. Ask your group if they can sit there over 6 hrs to keep wiped. If they can, you can lower the gear level. Otherwise get gear higher. Difference between 80 and 90 isn't huge but experience will cause 50% performance different.
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