So apparently FFXIV-App is banworthy now?

[Dorin]

More clarification on this now, please.

[xopher]

Royze, out of respect to the player in the screenshot, please remove the link to the screenshot from your initial reply.

[Royze]

Royze, out of respect to the player in the screenshot, please remove the link to the screenshot from your initial reply.

done. pls check it.

[Diadumenos]

I see trains of RMT bots running around with multiple people reporting them and nothing from a GM. A guy uses are DPS tracker and gets called out almost immediately... srsly SE WTF?!

[Nihility]

I see trains of RMT bots running around with multiple people reporting them and nothing from a GM. A guy uses are DPS tracker and gets called out almost immediately... srsly SE WTF?!

a big problem with dealing with RMT is they get a lot of their accounts by stealing them from normal players.
It makes just straight banning them a bit tricky

This is just a matter someone doing something stupid enough to get a GM on their case then openly admitting using third party programs
didn't even get a ban, just a warning

[Sasagawa]

Yoshi noted that he has no issue with parsing to improve yourself. however it very clearly states in the TOS that using third party software to effect other players gaming experience is against the TOS.

IN this case it wasnt the fact you were using a parser it was the fact that you were using it to monitor other players which is not allowed.

Tbh i can totally agree with the GMs decision while you may or may not of intentionally meant to upset the player fact is you should keep things like comparing parser results to voice chat and close game friends.

[Bluezero]

Yoshi noted that he has no issue with parsing to improve yourself. however it very clearly states in the TOS that using third party software to effect other players gaming experience is against the TOS.

IN this case it wasnt the fact you were using a parser it was the fact that you were using it to monitor other players which is not allowed.

The GM doesn't say that though. He says using a 3rd party app is a huge violation.

[Sasagawa]

The GM doesn't say that though. He says using a 3rd party app is a huge violation.

very true,

I think you will find that technically parsers are against the TOS but at the same time they aren't.

if you use a parser for yourself noone knows you are using it and it doesnt effect the game or others in it.
However, if you use it to affect another players gaming experience the parser is effecting the game and therefore falls under the use of third party apps.

There is no way of checking if someones using a parser as they only read a log file thats saved on your local machine and do some basic maths on it. Therefore, as far as i recall yoshi said he was fine with people using a parser because ultimately there is no way to stop people from doing so. my advice would be to keep parser related chat to close friends and within voice chat.

[Royze]

Yoshi noted that he has no issue with parsing to improve yourself. however it very clearly states in the TOS that using third party software to effect other players gaming experience is against the TOS.

IN this case it wasnt the fact you were using a parser it was the fact that you were using it to monitor other players which is not allowed.

This needs more clarification. The enmity meter is the same thing, and everyone can see that. The only difference is representing the information more accurately and in numbers, rather than in a gauge bar.

[Sasagawa]

This needs more clarification. The enmity meter is the same thing, and everyone can see that. The only difference is representing the information more accurately and in numbers, rather than in a gauge bar.

Royze thats the point of the vague gauge bar so you don't have numbers to compare.

Im not saying parsers are bad far from it but I would wait until SE brings out an official development kit or the like for making these apps (if they ever do). like most things SE wants to keep some sort of control over the 3rd party apps scene.