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    Xenor's Avatar
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    Xenor Vernix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I have the same problem, 190-200ish depending on the run.

    I always stack because I assume a party will whine if I'm not stacking. Usually I'll dodge the plume, cast my next spell and start running once I pass the 80% or whatever cast bar where you can run and still have it go off. But I end up with some interrupts when dodging the landslide. I need to use Manawall more I guess. Also need to start holding RS for the egis rather than using in heart phase.

    I've been wondering whether using Scathe when dodging would be helpful, but right now my biggest DPS issue seems to be the fact I stack too much.

    Some parties can be pretty harsh, had one complaining the two LNCs were doing more DPS than me yesterday, and I couldn't even join a party in one of my linkshells unless I could do 250 DPS, which is crazy. I've always put dodging before damage on Titan but now I will take more risks to squeeze out that extra DPS.
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    NightWrath's Avatar
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    Night Wrath
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    I will try this phaser, because with ffxiv - app never seen anyone pass 230 dps.

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    Sparda Amon
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    Man it is becoming scary to talk about parsers at the moment. I fear for permanent banned for talking too much about it on the forums.

    In any case, the parse posted by Seobit is as accurate as it can be. Very impressive numbers indeed. I don't know how much dps I'm doing on Titan ex nor what kind of total damage to expect using ACT as I have only parsed using a very inferior option IMHO. However, OP, you need to forget about parsers and focus on Titan fight itself.

    IMO, BLM naturally do higher numbers the more they know the fight. For Titan EX, you need to be able to know what is going to happen in the next 3 seconds at any moment in the fight. Knowing that and moving during your off time is the very key. If you are always at the correct position and rarely cancel your cast to dodge you will naturally reach very impressive numbers. There is also the two adds, you should be the one demolishing them with a nice buffed out double flares, easy 5k+ damage with double crits and foe.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 01-21-2014 at 11:36 PM.

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    Volux Er'drexus
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    Adamantoise
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    Not to make you feel worse but Arc/Brd DPS should actually be closer to 240-270 if you're playing it right....210 is garbage. Sum DPS so high because their egi never has to move...
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    Estelle Arwen
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    Odin
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    Bard 210? Im not even close to full 90 and put out almost 300dps in titan extreme
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleSphinx View Post
    Bard 210? Im not even close to full 90 and put out almost 300dps in titan extreme
    with app i've never seen a bard pass 250 on titan including myself.

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    Neon Sea
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWrath View Post
    with app i've never seen a bard pass 250 on titan including myself.
    People can get 250, the thing is you would not be dps'ing smart imo. Usually this means you are burning cd's as soon as they are available, but if you want to make the fight much more smooth and not pad the numbers you would want to save certain cd's for certain phases.

    @T0rin: lol says the Smn. Who can do the most damage in 15 seconds can be just as vital to a fight as to someone in 15 minutes.
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    Last edited by NeonC; 01-23-2014 at 02:55 AM.

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    Lunairetic Emx
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    There's no reason for a Bard to hold cooldowns for almost any part of the fight.

    If you are that means you are overcompensating for bad DPS.
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Ive been wondering, about how much non-moving uptime does BLM have on Titan Extreme? And how would you go about testing it?

    For a BLM, moving = almost no dps. You have your Thunder ticking for 35 potency every 3 sec, and you can Scathe for 100 potency every ~2.35 sec, but that will cut a fire out of your fire cycle due to the mana cost, unless you happen to be in UI3... Even then, Thunder ticks + Scathe = 35/3+120(average)/2.35 = ~63 pps at most, versus ~110 pps when you are standing still. Not counting the broken casts and the lost fires due to insufficient mana.

    In terms of overall dps, I am usually around 190 dps by the time we get to Superbombs. (After jumps, dodging, etc) On a dummy I can do about 280 dps, I85 gear, I90 weapon.
    So based on those numbers, I have roughly 68% uptime on Titan... Honestly at that point I might as well be spamming Scathe and Thunder 1 for ~63% of my max pps, but with nearly 100% uptime.
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    Last edited by Kenji1134; 01-22-2014 at 02:14 AM.

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    Neon Sea
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    It's also important to look at burst phase damage. Sure Smn can get 300 sustained (which is amazing btw) but when I look at burst phases(heart/gaolers) the Blm and Brd can get some crazy numbers, not to mention the + 30% a bard can add to mage dps and +15% basically half of the entire fight. For instance, my bard which I normally get 220-250 dps on Titan can get up to 380+ for heart and Blm numbers in the gaolers phase can be staggering.
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    Last edited by NeonC; 01-22-2014 at 03:00 AM.

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