We're going to make the game a bit more tolerable for melee DPS

[-d-ky]

our way of doing garuda ex with 3 melees

mt 11 garuda; ot 2 surpana; dps 7 chirada; 1 healer 5 , 1 healer 7
dps down chirada as soon as possible before garuda and surpana swap(if they swapped before chirada is downed, use all you cds to burn down chirada), melee moves to 11 where surpana is now at, and the rest of the fight is pretty predictable
fyi, downburst dmg is share, there are two ways to tackle it :

-all dps stack together, move away during splitscream
-to maximize the dps, i normally will tank it as a blackmage, dps will atk at the rear and back, at a certain time, one of the dps's will be marked(healer sometimes), everyone stacks with the marked guy and continues to dps

[Marcusow86]

My group does it this way:-

1. MT Grabs Garuda + Suprana while OT grab Chirada + Spiny

2. At 2 stack, OT provoke Suprana from MT While MT grabs Spiny.

3. From the start till the end, melee DPS will only be at OT's loc and significantly reducing the risk of eating dirt.

Of course, if you want to do this, in the middle Spiny phase, the OT have to grab the spiny immediately even when spiny went to MT. This will ensure provoke CD is ready for the sister phase.

[Seobit]

I actually enjoy doing garuda as my dragoon for the extra challenge. Takes a bit of work to figure out how to get everything down right but when you do it's a really good feeling.

[Dervy]

Garuda EX = EZ mode for melee lol.

Phase with Rocks up:

1) MT Grabs Chirada + Garuda
2) OT grabs Suprana
3) Nuke Suprana. You see Fricton? Run past rocks to avoid Wicked Wheel
4) OT Grabs Chirada
5) Nuke Chirada
6) Nuke Garuda

Lol what's Wicked Wheel?

Vortex Phase with Twins:
1) MT Grabs Garuda + Chirada
2) OT Grabs Suprana
3) Spiny runs to a healer
4) Tank holds Suprana in a corner of a vortex
5) As you see slipstream being cast from Suprana, melee DPS run to opposite corner of Triangle
= Avoid Wicked Wheel
= ????
6) OT grabs Spiney off Healer (Healer should have max 2 stacks)
7) After you see Garuda Cast Wicked Wheel, Spineshatter/Shoulder Tackle to MT.
8) Kill Chirada
= What's Wicked Wheel lol

Repeat.

That's the lazy mode strat in case anyone wants to know.

[MPNZ]

Yeah, most of the complaints I've read about the ranged being overpowered with super high DPS all seems like they could easily be fixed by making it so that melee DPS can survive taking a hit better, so they could keep up their maximum DPS up much longer. Because, by numbers melee still does better DPS in fights.

[Thorauku]

The reason why melees are having a hard time dealing with Garuda EX / Ifrit EX is they don't know what they're doing.

nuffsaid.

[Ehayte]

Another strat to make Garuda EX easier on Melee, Healers, and Tanks:

Normal through tornados, then:

MT takes Garuda and Spiny to NW
OT takes Supurna to NE
DPS and Healers take Chirada to SW

Healers don't have the stress of MT taking a shitload of DMG and double WWs. DPS and Healers should focus target Chirada to watch for slip stream, and they shouldn't get a WW, if they do Succor+Fey+Medica. DRGs jump/MNKs shoulder tackle to Sup, then to Garuda.

I thought that this was going to be too stressful on the healers, but they said it was quite a bit easier than trying to heal through Chirada on OT and double WWs on MT.

Just some food for thought, I guess the JP servers do it this way.

[mythicrose]

Seriously, this is completely unacceptable. They messed around with the numbers, but the problem between ranged and melee DPS is not their number output. Its the mechanics they're expected to deal with during fights.

I understand your frustration. Generally, though, it's the tanks that make or break this fight. That aside, you can't expect too many mechanics that wrek ranged dps like you can with melee. Reasoning? You've got to take in to account healers and their cast times. Things that would wrek or interrupt ranged dps more often would also screw the healers over....and in turn screw the tank. At least most of the things that wrek melee have a tell tale sign to allow us to dodge.

[Lecreuset]

Probably because you tunnel vision on the boss and don't pay any attention to anything else. I bet you'd be one of those people that run to the healer with searing wind during eruption on ifrit extreme ranged dps or not.

[BlackThought]

Jump to my Dragoon and suddenly I'm putting in three times the effort I did on my Black Mage.

This is literally every fight as a DRG, tho.