Enough

[Duuude007]

Not really at least in my experience.. Same people just sick of DF then making a PF and still getting owned. I have a running list of Titan attempts from DF and PF. Won't go into full detail but in the first 60 runs only one group took down the heart... Only to wipe to the first tumult. FYI I was still standing. So at least on my server PF is just another DF. Not just Titan either... Wish I had vids of some of the other groups I got in from PF... So much fail on everything from chimera to mog to primals to ct... So much fail

Yes, many players suck at titan.

That said, my very first Titan ex win was thru a pf made up of complete strangers.
First attempt for the party, no less.
It took 3 more attempts to get a 2nd win as well from the same party.

[Goodberry]

Please don't quit just for damn Titan.

As I said, I am playing the game without Primals or Coils. On a limb about trying Labyrinth (put my nose in once and didn't like the cold look of the place).

This way I plan to do my dungeons and stuff (have AK on farm mode now) till I am decked in full 90. Planning to get a 70/75 weapon somehow. SE can keep the damn relic.

Never got a legendary weapon in WoW either, too time consuming and gets obsolete the moment you get it. Lots of more time-effective things to do in game.

I'm very pleased with my toon's strength after just 2 months playing. And no HM Titan, nor Garuda, did Ifrit once. :P

P.S.
Getting Stealth as a Disciple of the Land delighted the Rogue in me.

[indira]

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wow clone. due to wow being one the most know of its kind.

#1. gearscore its all about the numbers.
#2. grinding dungeon for tokens & gear.
#3. crafting is 99% useless.
#4. never have to move from one spot ever to do content. just queue and wait.
#5. world is for show, no one needs it.
#6. same mechanics in a fight.
#7 casual game made for all, means easy mode.
#8 eveything is instanced.

[Virin]

Yes, many players suck at titan.

That said, my very first Titan ex win was thru a pf made up of complete strangers.
First attempt for the party, no less.
It took 3 more attempts to get a 2nd win as well from the same party.

Apples and oranges... Your server vs mine. Titan HM vs Titan Ex (where people are actually more often properly geared)

Shikoba- try months. Not days or weeks months of fail groups. I gave up and am working on crafts to make the money to buy a carry

[Marishi-Ten]

WHINING

See what I did there? You can complain, you're halfway there. Now offer solutions or you're posts will be nothing but more whining.

[Zaels]

I'll never understand how people can seriously call Titan HM "too difficult" when everything he does is done in the exact same order. Even with 200ms ping or whatever, you can dodge plumes because you know they're about to happen.

And if you have even worse ping than that, expecting SE to make the game easy to cater to those with connections THAT terrible is outright selfishness. You are the minority by far, and your connection isn't SE's responsibility.

[Shikoba]

Shikoba- try months. Not days or weeks months of fail groups. I gave up and am working on crafts to make the money to buy a carry

Yes... I have heard the horror stories. I guess somewhere in my stupid brain I thought to myself, "You know? I quit playing for a few months. The free weekened was great so I'll play again. I haven't seen much Titan hate on the forums.. maybe the worst has passed and people know what they are doing these days?"

Needless to say I was vastly mistaken. I won't be waiting months. Not at all. I will sooner pay for a run then wait that long as I don't really care what anyone thinks about it. I've done my homework. I'm always one of the last few standing. I know the fight fine. I refuse to stop progressing because others can't cut it. I don't blame anyone. I help where I can and I'm very patient. I don't rage quit. I'm a good sport about teams not getting it. But there comes a point where I just throw in the towel and say "forget it."

[Duuude007]

#1. gearscore its all about the numbers.

All? Hardly. I dare you to have a full i90 average party to oneshot pharos sirius JUST by facemelting the primary target. I'll wait.

#2. grinding dungeon for tokens & gear.

First, tokens only apply to dungeons over lv 40. Why then, do people keep doing guildhests (all sub 40) after they are 50 all classes?

#3. crafting is 99% useless.

Well, if done properly, it is very profitable. You must be doing it wrong.

#4. never have to move from one spot ever to do content. just queue and wait.

Seeing that you have at least 3 relic weapons, your candor seems lacking. You ought to know for a fact this is untrue.

#5. world is for show, no one needs it.

Say what? This statement doesn't even make sense.

#6. same mechanics in a fight.

in one fight? OK. in all of them? You MUST be joking.

#7 casual game made for all, means easy mode.

Seeing that you don't even seem have one class averaging over i80, how likely is it that you are caught up on content?

#8 eveything is instanced.

Eastern shroud is an instance with Beastmen dailies. South Shroud as an instance with Odin on occasion, just like other Shroud instances. Ya got me there.

1 out of 8 ain't bad.

So i hear WOW is planning to add level sync soon! Wonder where they got that idea?

[mana_leak]

gearscore its all about the numbers

Vertical gear progression has been around forever, where have you been if you think WoW is the only, or even first one?

grinding dungeon for tokens & gear

Tokens, I guess I can agree with you on that, I've never encountered a system that used this method prior to WoW. But as for dungeons: Do you really think grinding dungeons for gear is a thing WoW made? Are you serious? This method is staple to MMO's and video games in general.

crafting is 99% useless.

Crafting served a purpose in WoW, and still can. Have you even played it?

never have to move from one spot ever to do content. just queue and wait

There is quite a bit of content that exists outside of the queue screen. It's your decision to actually go out and do it. Hell, WoW has a slew of lore in it's quests. Ever hear of reading and immersion?

world is for show, no one needs it.

See above.

same mechanics in a fight.

This doesn't even make sense. What are you trying to get at?

casual game made for all, means easy mode.

Having elements, or activities in the game that support play for casual minded gamers does not automatically qualify the game as being easy. There are aspects to both WoW and FFXIV that are challenging to all levels of play.

eveything is instanced.

In terms of dungeons? Yeah, you're right. But that's been around much longer than WoW.