Enough

[Cherie]

I guess I would just point out that, say SE listens and nerfs Titan HM, well, he is merely one roadblock on the highway. Once he is dead, Coil is unlocked. Then what?

Say you even clear the first 4 turns, then it's turn 5, then what? There is always going to be a big bad to work on. And if you do manage to clear T1-5 and the EX primals, then it's just gear farm time for maybe a few hours each week...

Those that aren't complaining that the content is too hard are complaining that there isn't enough to do.

[darkstarpoet1]

this thread is horrid. the game is already too easy as it is.

if a group can afford to win with 6 or 7 and charge others for the runs because they can't do it with 8 then the problem is in the skill level of those 8 that couldn't beat it. it's 8 man content that's possible to win with 6 people.

[MurakumoMillennium]

Maybe not, but designing every encounter with cheap, over-powered "avoid this or die" attacks in lieu of forcing people to play their roles well like XI did is just as bad if not worse.

You have that backwards. Pre Abyssea there were bosses with 1 shot type moves if you did the mechanics wrong. Post Abyssea pretty much every boss had an instant death 1 shot move, and a multitude more that were hate resets. FFXIV has very few moves of either sort.

[Doo]

You have that backwards. Pre Abyssea there were bosses with 1 shot type moves if you did the mechanics wrong.

Don't really remember too many one shot kill moves but FFXI you can recover a lot easier.

[Ghasto]

Just because you have no problem dodging, doesn't mean other people don't. Go to youtube and look at any one of thousands of videos that CLEARLY show that there IS a huge problem with lag on that fight. You move out of the way, you're clear by a wide margin, and it still hits you. IT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED if you care to even bother looking for it.

Bye.

How do those videos prove anything? Let alone that it is SE's fault?

anyway, this thread is bad and OP should feel bad.

[GabrielK]

I can agree to one thing, since it is the pure truth (imo): ilvl for DF (Titan HM at least) is too low.
DF is less than ideal (understatement) and people screw up easily, and even if you dodge fatal stuff (landslide is game over for that player), they'll screw up on other mechanics and take excessive damage

Higher ilvl requirement for Titan HM would ensure that at least a small part of the lack of cohesion and lack skill (less than optimal dps, less than optimal healing, etc) will be offset by gear.

As it stands now, if all players are at the absolute minimum ILVL for Titan HM, the fight is impossible for most if not all full random DF groups.

That being said, extreme modes should have way higher ilvl too, for the same precise reason.

I disagree with making the fight easier (by dumb-ing down mechanics) thou, even thou that's what other games did, making random group fights feel brain dead.

You may disagree with me, but that's my honest opinion on the matter of Titan HM and upper, when it comes to DF at least.

[Lyrinn]

I've thought long and hard about this and I just cannot figure out what exactly it is about Titan that throws so many people off. Some people say it's the irrecoverability of getting hit; Demon Wall does the same and no one complains about it. Some say it's the short times given to get out of WotL; FFXIV is hardly the first game to require you to know something bad is coming ahead of time. If you die, then you know it's coming and take steps to avoid it the second time around. Some say it's lag; I've seen freak cases and videos where there does seem to be a desync in the fight, but I haven't seen or heard of many of them since they reduced the update times. If you consistently lag badly and can still make it through other content, I think that means previous content was too easy. Plus, there are people with 250~300 ping who can still make it.

I just don't get it.

In any case, I believe making relics mandatory by tuning content around them was a flaw. Maybe it's old school thinking now, but relics should've been rewarding to get with multiple options to choose from beneath them, rather than the other way around where relic is needed to then get a multitude of weapon choices.

[Malendroit]

I could give a rat's butt what the hardcore gamers {btw only 5% of your player base}

Where do these percentages come from and why do you mention them if you don't care? Color me confused.

...go ahead and laugh if you want...

lol

[tymora]

Move early if you have lag. Or ask to stand in the back away from others so that eating 1 plume won't kill you.
Before 2.1, I have to MOVE BEFORE seeing plumes in order to dodge them (1 silent count after the end of stomps and end of mountain buster).
After 2.1, I have no problems dodging.
- And I am connecting from Asia.

Alternatively, play a caster where you can use SPRINT. If you use sprint at the start of stomps after the heart phase, sprint will always be up just in time for the next plumes.

Before you say anything, I cleared Titan HM 7x in 2.0 with a bad connection. Some with help from FC/LS, some with random PUGs from Revenent's. When I start any run, I always tell the party I will preemptively run diagonally towards the back so don't run into my plumes.
It is not impossible. You just need to learn how to ADAPT to the timing of your connection.

[Cherie]

I can agree to one thing, since it is the pure truth (imo): ilvl for DF (Titan HM at least) is too low.

I agree that maybe the ilvl is too low for one reason: It's sooo easy to gear in this game.
I've seen people with many i90 myth pieces that still don't have a relic and maybe even quest reward gear mixed in, like level39 rings or something.

I've also seen people in dungeons at lower levels with "missing" gear entirely. I did AV with a tank that didn't have a single thing on the right side... no accessories at all!
People just don't care about gear... you can go through 1-50 in your race clothes and still win(nearly).