Too many poor DPS

[Neralyte]

I agree that Titan is seen as somewhat of a check when you're gunning for a relic. It can be slightly unfair to go from never having to worry about DPS checks (because there are practically none until this point) to being slapped in the face with one and immediately follow it up with a rotation that is designed to catch out DPS that are still focusing efforts on their rotations. But it's the players that have nurtured bad habits with FATE grinding etc and turning around and setting disproportionate ilvl requirements that has bred inability to cope with late game content.

[Artemiz]

I agree that Titan is seen as somewhat of a check when you're gunning for a relic. It can be slightly unfair to go from never having to worry about DPS checks (because there are practically none until this point) to being slapped in the face with one and immediately follow it up with a rotation that is designed to catch out DPS that are still focusing efforts on their rotations. But it's the players that have nurtured bad habits with FATE grinding etc and turning around and setting disproportionate ilvl requirements that has bred inability to cope with late game content.

I don't really agree that there aren't any DPS checks before Titan HM, just of the top of my head I can think of The Ultima Weapon in Praetorium (countdown phase) Demon Wall and Ifrit HM's Nails. Then there are the Story mode versions of both Ifrit and Titan. All of those are challenging to a player who is new to the instance.

[Raminax]

I don't really agree that there aren't any DPS checks before Titan HM, just of the top of my head I can think of The Ultima Weapon in Praetorium (countdown phase) Demon Wall and Ifrit HM's Nails. Then there are the Story mode versions of both Ifrit and Titan. All of those are challenging to a player who is new to the instance.

In all honesty, those DPS checks are either very easy to pass or extremely cheesable (Damage Limit Breaks will more often than not completely nullify DPS races until Titan Hard), which gives very little reason to improve for a lot of DPS. At least I've yet to see any failure regarding your examples so far, unless everyone is either AFK or the party completely ignores hitting the Infernal Nail.

[Viridiana]

In all honesty, those DPS checks are either very easy to pass or extremely cheesable (Damage Limit Breaks will more often than not completely nullify DPS races until Titan Hard)

Agreed. Demon Wall tests your ability to do moderate damage while dodging; story Ifrit is doable with a dead dps (if I'm not mistaken); I didn't even realize Ultima Weapon *had* a dps check, it's so light; Ifrit Hard's nails are done with 1-2 LBs; and the sisters in Garuda Hard are almost certainly going to die as long as no player dies first.

Compare that with Titan Hard, where if any of the DPS isn't pulling their weight, has weakness, or has DET down from the gaols, there's a good chance you won't be clearing the heart. Even then, building LB3 early can cover for a lot of weakness in this phase. . .