AOE Toggle Needs to GO

[Tibian]

AOE Toggle needs to be removed. Terrible terrible terrible concept.

Is this being addressed in the battle update?

SE needs to make individual AOE spells or somehow remake the AOE mechanics. The toggle is too much of a hassle to deal with, especially when aggro'd groups don't even yield SP until they turn red.

[viion]

I like it, I dont find it to much, I dont even use macros except for this and I play controller so Left trigger + A = on, right trigger + A = off (or ctrl+1/Alt+1)

I hope they keep it because they I can control my nukes and such. I just wish it would remember my settings, maybe for a safety matter it doesnt, but annoys me when everyones like buff buff buff and i do protect on 1 guy lol.

[Tibian]

I like it, I dont find it to much, I dont even use macros except for this and I play controller so Left trigger + A = on, right trigger + A = off (or ctrl+1/Alt+1)

I hope they keep it because they I can control my nukes and such. I just wish it would remember my settings, maybe for a safety matter it doesnt, but annoys me when everyones like buff buff buff and i do protect on 1 guy lol.

You can control your abilities with Protect and Protect (AOE) too. Just make them individual skills. AoE toggle is miserable and its inefficient. Goes back to the whole "number of inputs" vs "efficiency" debate.

Not to mention, it is unresponsive.

Also. Pad playing is not meant for PC MMO controls. Again, PS3 / PC UI's need to be separate. This is once again a great example of the UI efficiency suffering because of PS3 pad limitations.

[viion]

You can control your abilities with Protect and Protect (AOE) too. Just make them individual skills. AoE toggle is miserable and its inefficient. Goes back to the whole "number of inputs" vs "efficiency" debate.

Sure, if I can get 60 slots, But I dont want to have to use 2 slots for like 20 of my actions just so I can choose between AOE or not...

And if you say use macros, then you could use macros too

/aoe on
/ac protect
/aoe off

=)

[Tibian]

Sure, if I can get 60 slots, But I dont want to have to use 2 slots for like 20 of my actions just so I can choose between AOE or not...

And if you say use macros, then you could use macros too

/aoe on
/ac protect
/aoe off

=)

Macros take gross amounts of time to execute and would probably bug out, so no I wont suggest that.

They could easily make it so you can equip the same type of spell.

Furthermore it would also drive them to make more than 1 action bar present on the screen at all times.

[viion]

Macros take gross amounts of time to execute and would probably bug out, so no I wont suggest that.

They could easily make it so you can equip the same type of spell.

Furthermore it would also drive them to make more than 1 action bar present on the screen at all times.

I dont want more action bars because I playing the UI, I wanna play a game, not menus and buttons. I dont get the whole same type of spell thing I wasnt talking about that, what im saying is I'd need 2 slots per action. Protect Single, Protect AOE, which be pointless why would I ever need a single?

Blizzard, Blizzard AOE, Fire, FireAOE, Stone, Stone AOE.

6 Slots used up for duplicate spells justi n different forms, very silly imo. I much prefer the switch. I wouldnt mind the buttin being removed because its fugly. Have something similar to the target settings.

[Vanguard319]

You can control your abilities with Protect and Protect (AOE) too. Just make them individual skills. AoE toggle is miserable and its inefficient. Goes back to the whole "number of inputs" vs "efficiency" debate.

Not to mention, it is unresponsive.

Also. Pad playing is not meant for PC MMO controls. Again, PS3 / PC UI's need to be separate. This is once again a great example of the UI efficiency suffering because of PS3 pad limitations.

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.], it's more efficient to give players the choice to target one target or a group with the same spell, if you ever played any other final fantasy besides xi, you'd realize that most of the games in the series offer the same option.

[Rowyne]

Also. Pad playing is not meant for PC MMO controls. Again, PS3 / PC UI's need to be separate. This is once again a great example of the UI efficiency suffering because of PS3 pad limitations.

This! ^

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XIV FORUM Guidelines.], it's more efficient to give players the choice to target one target or a group with the same spell, if you ever played any other final fantasy besides xi, you'd realize that most of the games in the series offer the same option.

1. Namecalling, totally uncalled for.
2. Are we seriously comparing a console standalone game to a PC MMO? The same mechanics and UI do not work for both. Just like the turn-based stamina bar system we're scrapping for auto-attack.

[Vanguard319]

This! ^



1. Namecalling, totally uncalled for.
2. Are we seriously comparing a console standalone game to a PC MMO? The same mechanics and UI do not work in each. Just like the turn-based stamina bar system we're scrapping for auto-attack.

1. At this point, I could care less if I hurt your feelings, not gonna apologize for it.

2 Yes I am, there is no need to create seperate and redundant spells for the sole purpose of being either single target or aoe, especially since the toggle works. don't like it, too bad.

3. By the time I left XI the number of spells you had to search through had reached ridiculous levels, all because you had multiple tiers of single target AND aoe spells. the toggle streamlines this, and leaves you with just tiers to sort through. Either way, it's significantly less clutter.

4. Stop demanding they change things that already work great when there are plenty of other things that are obviously broken and need fixing.

[Tibian]

1. no comment.
2 Yes I am, there is no need to create seperate and redundant spells for the sole purpose of being either single target or aoe, especially since the toggle works. don't like it, too bad.

As far as calling me miserable and inefficient. I don't appreciate it. I am trying to be constructive to make the game better. You're apparently upset because your tastes appeal to the toggle button. That's fine. I find it prevents engaging and precise play. But don't just start berating people because you dislike opinions.

Secondly, "don't like it, too bad" is really the mentality you want to approach this game with? REALLY? Cuz if that's the case SE should just not take opinions at all, we all saw how that worked out at launch.

Finally. Single player console games cannot be compared to an MMO where communication and precision is important. Turn based toggles worked wonderfully in the FF games created nearly 15-20 years ago. Welcome to 2011.