AOE Toggle Needs to GO

[Rowyne]

Ah, so it's the pressing enter after clicking the spell that bugs you.

YES! Finally, someone gets it.

If we wanted the extra enter press to confirm target to be removed we'd have to change the system to something like:

1. Select or change to target which you would like to cast the spell
2. Use the spell

That's all it should be. Two simple steps. Select target, cast spell, it fires off without any extra roadblocks or confirmation. That simple.

[odintius]

I think the current aoe feature is fine could it be approved sure. I'm not seeing the point of this thread, either your plan is to attack multiple target's or you don't simple concept. If your concern is over hitting multiple enemy's then I would recommend keeping it off until it's needed. I use the controller and keyboard because I use it to chat and the Z button isn't very far from the controller that's is in my hands.

[Cendres]

I think the current aoe feature is fine could it be approved sure. I'm not seeing the point of this thread, either your plan is to attack multiple target's or you don't simple concept. If your concern is over hitting multiple enemy's then I would recommend keeping it off until it's needed. I use the controller and keyboard because I use it to chat and the Z button isn't very far from the controller that's is in my hands.

Try to play a healer that wants to help with some nukes. Seriously bad idea with drastic consequences if you misfire your AOE toggle....

The current system is too simple and a serious pain in the neck for magic users.

Sometimes my "fan/cone" for Thaum works perfectly, other times it works more like a line that hits anything in my peripheral AND directly ahead. Admittedly I have not played Conjurer much so I have no idea if Conjurers have the same issue where the "circle" appears to change size on occasion even when casting the same spell. I love the ability to toggle, but there could be some refinement and at minimum a visual cue could make things easier without needing to change much else.

If I miss people I run to where they are and recast.... :S So i do a lot of running around trying not to get hit while making sure to heal as many people as possible...

[odintius]

[QUOTE=Cendres;189344]Try to play a healer that wants to help with some nukes. Seriously bad idea with drastic consequences if you misfire your AOE toggle....

The current system is too simple and a serious pain in the neck for magic users.

Stand by comment reread first sentence could be approved upon not saying it might not have any issue's but sounds like user error.

[Cendres]

Try to play a healer that wants to help with some nukes. Seriously bad idea with drastic consequences if you misfire your AOE toggle....

The current system is too simple and a serious pain in the neck for magic users.

Stand by comment reread first sentence could be approved upon not saying it might not have any issue's but sounds like user error.

You said that you don't see the point of this thread. I'm telling you why there's a point. Start by typing what you mean and stand by it if you're going to be flippant about it.

Gawd why do I even come to these boards? Full of me me me children. >> (Viion is included in this comment)

Agreed.

Macros are simply workarounds. If we have to live our lives by macros, then something is broken.

Yes macros are supposed to be there to help out, NOT be a requirement to play effectively. This is a problem carried over from FFXI which for some nebulous reason SE just can't get around to work correctly. I don't have this problem in other MMOs.

[Rowyne]

Try to play a healer that wants to help with some nukes. Seriously bad idea with drastic consequences if you misfire your AOE toggle....

The current system is too simple and a serious pain in the neck for magic users.

Agreed.
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To avoid the AoE toggle step altogether, use a macro. Guaranteed never to miss those AoE cures in the future.

Macros are simply workarounds. If we have to live our lives by macros, then something is broken.

[normalforce]

Macros are simply workarounds. If we have to live our lives by macros, then something is broken.

What about macros that are used to stack abilities or does that not constitute something being broken?

Anyway, what's wrong with macros? From the keyboard, it's one extra button to hold down. Match them up with your action bar. For example, press 4 for Fire, Ctrl+4 to launch a Fire AoE, or vice versa. Bang, dead simple. You can even label Ctrl+4 Firaga and now everyone's happy.

[Elexia]

Macros are simply workarounds. If we have to live our lives by macros, then something is broken.

Why do you think games (online and offline) include macros or an ability to "queue" actions? Because the game is "broken"? Revelation.

Actually, because it helps you be more efficient.

[Tibian]

Why do you think games (online and offline) include macros or an ability to "queue" actions? Because the game is "broken"? Revelation.

Actually, because it helps you be more efficient.

Macros do help you become more efficient. Unfortunately for such a core mechanic a macro isn't the best solution, just a slight improvement. Macros may work in some capacity for now, but the aoe toggle still needs to be examined.

And the macro system for XIV is still quite unsavory. I'd like to see it improved as well, but that is another topic/thread to come.

[Vanguard319]

Macros are simply workarounds. If we have to live our lives by macros, then something is broken.

And yet you want to turn this game into a FFXI-clone, never mind the fact that that game's spell lists were SO convoluted that macros were the only practical way to fire off spells quickly. Sounds like you WANT this game to be broken, just because you hate a particular feature.