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    Unrealistic ilvl requeriment

    What the hell was SE thinking when they made, for example, Pharos Sirius ilvl requeriment just 48.... LOL This is not CT, where under geared people can be carried by highly geared players. I just fail to see the reasoning behind the ilvl requeriments for Hardmode dungeons and Pharaos Sirius. It should be more than ilvl48. Maybe SE didnt tried em enough before launching?
    What else could it be?
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    Pretty much everything in there is harder the higher your dps is
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  4. 01-19-2014 08:54 AM
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    didn't initally understand OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    so people don't walk into it still wearing the minimum gear requirement for brayflox's longstop.
    OP is complaining that the level requirement is too low, not too high.
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    These requirements aren't an indication of the level of gear required to do these fights. They're just there to stop people with excessively low gear from getting in. I mean, the ilvl for Titan EM is 67 (if I remember properly, not logged in at the moment). The majority of players wanted higher than that just for Titan HM, you really think they would assume people could do Titan EM in that gear? No.

    These are in no way meant to be the ilvl's they expect us to play them at. It's better to have it lower and accept more people than it is to set it to, say, 80 for Titan EM and lock out the people at 75 who can easily do it.
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    Moogle: Black Mage ftw.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/129860-So-I-tested-some-BLM-rotations...

    Here's a link to a bunch of rotation and DPS numbers I wrote up to try help BLM see they aren't as weak as they might think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    Pretty much everything in there is harder the higher your dps is
    She get a point here. The 1st boss of Pharos Sirius spawn more adds as his life goes down, which mean that if he's DPS'd too fast you will be crowded with them. Most of the time the DPS of the party don't want to understand that, why idk, must be the pride of the DPS prolly... & they don't really care about the adds either, which become a problem.

    Now Idk for the Manor HM as I did not unlock it yet (Pharos was enough of a mistake to unlock for Duty Roulette.) But its what I could observe, and when the DPS of your party ask you to run after the adds while kitting boss you know that there is a problem...
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    It's set low so people from an fc can get their alts in and play together while still having a shot at the boss.
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    These requirements confuse me, so you're not alone. The idea is to stop undergeared people getting into content, though the requirements are too low; item level 65 for Garuda Extreme is too low; an item level 90 tank takes heavy damage from those Wicked Wheels, so a level 65 tank would have absolutely no chance, I honestly don't know what they were thinking there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    It's set low so people from an fc can get their alts in and play together while still having a shot at the boss.
    I understand this logic, but then why is there a requirement at all for premade groups? If a Free Company wants to wear snowmen outfits to Titan Hard Mode, I don't see why not.

    They should remove the item level requirement from premade groups and increase it for Duty Finder groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira View Post
    These requirements confuse me, so you're not alone. The idea is to stop undergeared people getting into content, though the requirements are too low; item level 65 for Garuda Extreme is too low; an item level 90 tank takes heavy damage from those Wicked Wheels, so a level 65 tank would have absolutely no chance, I honestly don't know what they were thinking there.
    Except that the double-WW strat is somewhat unnecessarily hard on tanks. I wonder how well the triangle strat would work with an ilvl 65 party. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira View Post
    They should remove the item level requirement from premade groups and increase it for Duty Finder groups.
    I think this could help. At least slightly raising the ilvl requeriments!
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    Last edited by Alphoter5; 01-19-2014 at 01:41 PM.

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