Thread: Cactuar Progression Thread - v2.0

Originally Posted by Roxa

Is our entire group here? Yes, Do we have the gear to prove it? Yes, are we using the same FC name? (Check in game, we're all under FE now that the 1 day hold has lifted) Oh look at that we are. So again I'm going to ask where does it say that you have to be on server for the kills to count.

EDIT: Since your brain seems to be inside of my toolbox (Crap I seem to be missing a wrench), if you can provide any information to where it states where the kills had to originate that was drafted BEFORE we transferred here, I'll concede to you.

I never said you or anyone else was lying. Again, it's great that there are more groups clearing the current content. My point is and has always been that your previous recent victory PROBABLY shouldn't be counted on our current servers tracker as when you initially got the win you were on a different one.

But I mean, it's already on there anyway. So *shrug* I guess.

Not that I want to get involved in any of this, but just wanted to clear something up as I've had a few conversations in game today about. The point of this thread is track the progression of guilds on Cactuar. Let's say Curse transferred off. I would more than likely leave them here, but put up a note as to when they transferred off, similar to how I noted that FE transferred in.

Originally Posted by Roomba

I never said you or anyone else was lying. Again, it's great that there are more groups clearing the current content. My point is and has always been that your previous recent victory PROBABLY shouldn't be counted on our current servers tracker as when you initially got the win you were on a different one.

Again I'm going to ask why? What's different about Cactuar vs Zalera other than the playerbase? Same 8 players are in the group, so its not like we came here and had to start picking up people to try and re-kill it. The server integrity is the same seeing as they're on the same data center even. So the ONLY difference is the name of the server and the players on it, which we've moved all of our players here. Once again I'm going to ask where it states that the kills had to originate on Cactuar for them to be counted.

Originally Posted by Menriq

Not that I want to get involved in any of this, but just wanted to clear something up as I've had a few conversations in game today about. The point of this thread is track the progression of guilds on Cactuar. Let's say Curse transferred off. I would more than likely leave them here, but put up a note as to when they transferred off, similar to how I noted that FE transferred in.

Then shouldn't this rule have been noted in the OP (or even second post) if it was going to be enforced? Life would sure be great if I could go along making up rules as they come to fit any situation in my favor.

Originally Posted by Menriq

Not that I want to get involved in any of this, but just wanted to clear something up as I've had a few conversations in game today about. The point of this thread is track the progression of guilds on Cactuar. Let's say Curse transferred off. I would more than likely leave them here, but put up a note as to when they transferred off, similar to how I noted that FE transferred in.

Yeah I hear ya Menriq, and I'm really not trying to start an argument here. I'm simply trying to point out that if we're going to compile data and information down to specific dates and times, etc. there should probably be a few rules and stipulations.

I'm not making up rules. I'm saying you all are on Cactuar, thus your progression is being tracked. Nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by Roomba

Yeah I hear ya Menriq, and I'm really not trying to start an argument here. I'm simply trying to point out that if we're going to compile data and information down to specific dates and times, etc. there should probably be a few rules and stipulations.

Dat hindsight.

Also @ Menriq, I'm going to be a little nitpicky here then since everyone else has been, it's my turn now. Why are we listed after Judgement then? Also the name hasn't been changed to reflect the FC that we're actually using despite me updating it on page 14 I believe. I don't see any rules stated that says "If you transfer here, you'll be listed behind others despite the kill dates"

Originally Posted by Roxa

Again I'm going to ask why? What's different about Cactuar vs Zalera other than the playerbase? Same 8 players are in the group, so its not like we came here and had to start picking up people to try and re-kill it. The server integrity is the same seeing as they're on the same data center even. So the ONLY difference is the name of the server and the players on it, which we've moved all of our players here. Once again I'm going to ask where it states that the kills had to originate on Cactuar for them to be counted.

There's no difference inherently in the game itself between servers, no. But imagine this: you were an athlete in the Olympics, and your gold medal from running the triathlon in the US was transferred to the Canadian team because you moved to Canada the week following the race. I'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. Welcome to Cactuar, good luck in the future.

Originally Posted by Roomba

There's no difference inherently in the game itself between servers, no. But imagine this: you were an athlete in the Olympics, and your gold medal from running the triathlon in the US was transferred to the Canadian team because you moved to Canada the week following the race. I'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. Welcome to Cactuar, good luck in the future.

I'm pretty sure the organization that runs the Olympics would have a set of rules in place for situations like this.