Low level market seems to be dead

[Mega_Man_U]

Well, it was about time I opened a thread with a genuine concern. So here it goes.

I've been leveling my Leatherworker after maybe a month of being stuck in lvl 10 or so, and I'm hitting a bit of a roadblock. This is: crafting is a waste of gil, since I don't get a profit from my crafting. I spend and spend gil on materials but then noone buys my crafted gear. Granted, I'm only making lvl 15 gear, but it's still quite an inversion money-wise, and I've had things on the market go unsold for over a month now. I know it will probably get better later when I'm doing high level HQ gear, but right now crafting feels like I'm just wasting gil. Anyone else feel the same?

[Espon]

I usually just vendor things that I don't HQ at low levels.

It shouldn't cost you too much, though. Pretty much everything you need can be bought off vendors, even though you might have to travel to another city to do so. Costs a lot less than it would buying from the market board.

[SarcasmMisser]

Leveling a crafting profession right now wouldn't be a good idea if you are in it for the money, it would take a long time to make the money back especially on a populated server.

Maybe in anticipation for the update and furniture it's worth it. I personally haven't leveled a craft for a month.

[Drakzen1]

Not trying to be funny or anything...but it was designed this way...So that crafting doesnt play a major role in the game.
If you read any of the live letters you will see what i mean, its really sad but its all we have.

[Quesse]

Not trying to be funny or anything...but it was designed this way...So that crafting doesnt play a major role in the game.
If you read any of the live letters you will see what i mean, its really sad but its all we have.

I'll second this.

Originally Tanaka had a pretty grand vision for crafting, albeit a poorly implemented one. Its one of the things that initially drew me to FFXIV -- crafters having their own classes on par with their DoW/M counterparts. Yoshi tricked me with 1.0 in that the introduction of materia and some of the other changes made it seem like crafting was going to always be an integral part of the game. Oh how wrong I was >.< 2.0 turned crafting into a sideshow and Yoshi has repeatedly said there are no plans to make it otherwise. Too bad - we finally get a pretty decent crafting system and it goes to waste.

[statikcat]

crafters having their own classes on par with their DoW/M counterparts.

How are they on par? I mean they have specific skills and levels but in reality it is just like any other MMO except you can put them all on one character. Leveling up botony is not much different from potions or something in another game. Level 20 could be skill 150 in another game all the same. Square giving crafting levels I think gives higher expectations than expected on what their end game role should be. Crafting is always to support. Now, I do think it should help support end game WAY better but not by crafting lv90 gear. More useful potions.. or one use type items across the board would be awesome. Or maybe awesome armor you can't repair that can help you get through a learning curve with a FC. Crafting drops in dungeons is also a must.. these can be craft to unique high lv gear. I mean these are just ideas off the top of my head. Also, hopefully vanity will help crafting economy some.

[Mega_Man_U]

Welp. That sucks.

Thanks for the replies everyone.

[Steeled]

To be honest, one problem is the leveling pace. I'm not going to spend any noticeable amount of gil for gear that will be completely useless in a few hours.

For instance, gear is quite often ready to be replaced before it's even ready to be converted, and usually by a wide difference. Something wrong with that.

[Artamie]

To be honest, one problem is the leveling pace. I'm not going to spend any noticeable amount of gil for gear that will be completely useless in a few hours.

I feel like this is the core of the problem, not to mention lots of the quests/levequests will also hand out gear. Grand company seals obtained from fate grinding will also yield items superior to crafted items in most instance too.

[Drakzen1]

No problem i love crafting and gathering too bad they are wasted....