Watching content before actually doing it?

[Imapooonu]

Just ask yourself, how often do I win a hard fight when someone in the party is new?
For me usually they die way too much for any good attempts and the party ends up disbanding.

Depends on the explanations given.

Some people can watch a vid one thousand and one times and still fail miserably. A vid is just a glorified explanation of the same explanation that can be given in 2-3 minutes via chat. If those 2-3 minutes are crucial to completing the task, then the group failed before it started.

[Doo]

Depends on the explanations given.

Some people can watch a vid one thousand and one times and still fail miserably. A vid is just a glorified explanation of the same explanation that can be given in 2-3 minutes via chat. If those 2-3 minutes are crucial to completing the task, then the group failed before it started.

If someone is giving an explanation, then most likely he did the work of studying for the fight. If you go into fights needing a 5-10 minute explanation every time, then it's the same as watching a vid except you're making someone else do all the work. Which is what these " I WANT TO LEARN TEH FIGHT!!" players are doing.

[Imapooonu]

If someone is giving an explanation, then most likely he did the work of studying for the fight. If you go into fights needing a 5-10 minute explanation every time, then it's the same as watching a vid except you're making someone else do all the work. Which is what these " I WANT TO LEARN TEH FIGHT!!" players are doing.

Or they are passing on their knowledge gained from experience or the explanations they got when they were new.

I can explain Ultima hm, and watched 30 seconds of a vid before going in. It's not hard to type and give a decent explanation, and it doesn't take 10 minutes either.

And I hardly call giving an explanation to someone work.

[Doo]

I can explain Ultima hm, and watched 30 seconds of a vid before going in. It's not hard to type and give a decent explanation, and it doesn't take 10 minutes either.

And I hardly call giving an explanation to someone work.

Depends on the individual, some players need every little step explained to them.

Garuda
Eye of the storm
Eruptions
Ifrit and plumes
3 sets of bombs
lasers
If tank switch on 3 stacks
etc

You have to do it in a way so it doesn't overload their brains while trying to explain enough to where they won't be a dead weight. But Ultima is a forgiving fight unlike the high level primals.

It comes down to my success rate of getting out of the early phases with new players .0001 percent while I may not win with the group that knows the fight but at least I get good attempts in.

[Gramul]

Or they are passing on their knowledge gained from experience or the explanations they got when they were new.

Isn't that exactly what the videos are for?

[Imapooonu]

Isn't that exactly what the videos are for?

Who said they're not?

[Gramul]

Who said they're not?

No one. I just think it's more convenient for everyone to use what's already there.

[Jyskal]

I like having new people in DF groups. Tell them the wrong thing and watch them die. Then sit and laugh at their dead bodies until you too die to the boss

No seriously, I really do like having new people in. Feels fresh.

Quote PvP : Fresh Meat

[DeceptionsWrath]

There is a lot of this stuff going around and i think it hurts the game more than helps it. It makes a lot of people not feel very welcomed. I watched a video for Titan HM, but that seems to be a fight you need to learn first hand as a caster. I did a few attempts @ Titan HM for my BLM relic and it didn't seem to help. I was even told that i should farm garuda for a weapon before doing the titan fight again.... So let me get this straight... I need to farm Garuda HM for god knows how long to get a weapon, just so i can beat 1 fight and then get my relic? Now i can see if i had some level 42 weapon. But this fight is set for i57 and i'm i70 with an i70 HQ Market board weapon. And i need a stronger weapon? I think it's these so called "watch a video" people that just want to get carried through content.

[Tupsi]

So let me get this straight... I need to farm Garuda HM

Too be fair, yes - The thought process is your damage will go up which will help in the long run, the only reason someone likely would have said that is because your DPS was too low to meet the check on the heart and after. While you CAN take it "slow and steady" after heart you still want to be fairly fast or the stomps will eventually wipe you.

Yes, you will get your relic after titan, but if your damage is very low you're just being carried. Only the Titan weapon (at times) is a waste to farm because you get the relic right after it.