I totally agree with the point if someone is looking in party finder for people who are experienced that you should be courteous and be experienced before joining because it was laid out before hand what is to be expected. The first time runs though with no quota is what I mean in which what I mention still happens, which is a shame. As much as I agree this is an mmo and is definitely a team sport we should be considerate of first timers, and if you are looking for experienced and know every nook and cranny of the dungeon kind of player, make it known when you recruit for it etc, it's very easy to do so.

And to the post above me... ah man that game was epic <3