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  1. #41
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    Nenin's Avatar
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    mind=blown that people are actually defending the 2.5s GCD.


    The combination of the insanely long GCD and off-the-GCD unresponsiveness due to animation locks adds up to combat that feels like somebody forgot to remove the training wheels.

    A 2.5s GCD does not lead to more 'tactical' or 'meaningful' button pressing. HMMMM what should I use after this Fire is done casting? Oh I know! Another Fire. Then i'll follow that up with a Fire. After that I should cast another Fire. Then I can end with a Fire + Blizzard III. Or I suppose I could really adapt to this situation by doing Fire, Fire, Fire, Fire, Blizzard III. So many choices, so many different tactics.
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  2. #42
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    Impurrrsive's Avatar
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    Coleo Softpaw
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 80
    sigh... increase tempo, isn't it fast enough?
    now everything is fast, speed run wp, rushed CT, enraged T2 (i like this one actually)
    how about fast forward titan ex
    what so fun having all fast forward?
    maybe OP should play fps once in a while
    even summoning retainer is mentioned?...just assume ur retainer in WC if he/she is late
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  3. #43
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    Vilzen's Avatar
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    Rin Upara
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Impurrrsive View Post
    enraged T2 (i like this one actually)
    This one is actually slower than killing it normal.
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  4. #44
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    Alvarion Lazuul
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Okay, so, you need a level 50 in at least 1 class/job and have cleared all content to have an opinion. Okay. Done. Combat is painfully slow.
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  5. #45
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    Secare Miura
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Ugh the GCD is what really gets me, I fall asleep healing and tanking because everything takes 3 seconds do.
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  6. #46
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    Shurelia Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    If you're coming from any modern theme park MMO then yes, FFXIV ARR will feel very slow mainly because the GCD is set so high. And let's not kid ourselves, MMOs by their nature don't require any kind of "twitch" reflex. Especially in a game like ARR where every encounter is extremely scripted and predictable.
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  7. #47
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    Arcturius Strife
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Hello? Can't you see that I do have a WAR? News break: WAR is a tank too.
    Yes but warrior has a lot of situational stuff that makes you on edge which makes it seem faster. Paladin/gladiator is the same 3 combo with a coulple insta cast buffs every now and then. They way the 2 play seems different. But yea. You don't have a 50 glad yet so no matter what you say doesn't matter. See what I did there? Also breaking news: WAR isn't PLD.
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    Last edited by Arcturius; 01-18-2014 at 05:47 PM.

  8. #48
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    Arkune Bloodedge
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_T View Post
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    I can tell you that any changes of the combat Speed will Need a rebalance of every Encounter/TP System and Skills.

    My main is MNK, i have a 1,98 sec GCD on my Skills and i am running out of TP really fast, even after i used invigorate ill be out of tp even before the next Invigorate skill will be rdy for use, so basicly no.

    To be honest ill take my MNK as example again: I am stacking up GL to 3 stacks which is easy because every finished Combo adds me 1 stack but Mobs getting debuffs or i get another buff to deal more damage and i have to use the skills behind or on the sides, if i have a 1 or 1,5 second cooldown on my skills and adding another skill Speed to my already short cooldown i wont find anytime to move to get the debuffs and buffs up myself (expect GL).

    To get to another Point why this 1-1,5 gcd System wouldnt work out at the current stage because of the TP System we have. In WoW as example a Warrior using Rage ressources which can be builded up via. Auto-Attack,Shouts and Skills they starting with 0 Points, build them up with the skills i mentioned before and blow them off by hitting the same button with 1 certain skills (which requires this ressources) until they are back to 0 and starts again, sure there were also Rouges they started with a energy System but their finishing moves as example recovered their engery Regeneration and they gathered Action Points, they had also a skill, to recover the energy instant to 100% and all this stuff. But to get to my Point by this: While XIV:ARR using a TP System which is basicly the same for every Job expect the Mages, WoW using different kinds of "TP" Systems they are all "balanced" to every Class that exists and working different.
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  9. #49
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcturius View Post
    Yes but warrior has a lot of situational stuff that makes you on edge which makes it seem faster. Paladin/gladiator is the same 3 combo with a coulple insta cast buffs every now and then. They way the 2 play seems different. But yea. You don't have a 50 glad yet so no matter what you say doesn't matter. See what I did there? Also breaking news: WAR isn't PLD.
    Oh, so this thread became focused on PLD / WAR now? It doesn't matter which class that dude has, the fact that he doesn't have any Lv 50 character and yet gives his opinion about how slow-paced this game is, while it is true for low-end dungeons, I'm talking about he should try doing the endgame contents first to support his claims more. See the point?

    Heck, I don't even know why he brought up his "tanking experience", no one even asked for it.
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  10. #50
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    Folsom Chauser
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    Jenova
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    Gladiator Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Nenin View Post
    mind=blown that people are actually defending the 2.5s GCD.
    My mind was blown when the space shuttle Challenger exploded. People preferring a 2.5 second GCD vs a .5, 1, or even 2 second GCD really, really seems like an incredibly minor first world problem that is barely even worth noticing, much less being "mind blowing." It must really tear you up inside when someone puts the toilet paper on the roll the wrong way.

    But, you know. It's the forums, so if someone defends/prefers something literally SECONDS slower, OH MY GOD HOW DO THEY LIVE?!?!?! Oh, wait, that's right. They actually enjoy a slower pace, more substantial attacks with fluid animations, or ample time to pay attention to environmental factors instead of tunneling button spam, etc. That seems like an easy thing to see that wouldn't blow anyone's mind, even if they disagreed.
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