To save SE, they most play to their strength...

[EinSof]

edit: Title is supposed to be "they mUst play to their strength..." sorry for typo.


SE apparently for nearly a decade can only make games with above average graphics. Gameplay in SE games has been extremely uninspired and archaic, ffxiv being no exception. If SE wanted to save their reputation, their fanbase, and their supposed standard for quality they need to scrap FFXIV, refund all accounts, and give each registered ffxiv user a coupon for their next mmo for free.

The next MMO since SE can't seem to develop new or exciting gameplay (I havent played it but I KNOW auto attack will be fail) should be FFXI with updated graphics, FFXI-2, set maybe 100 years after FFXI. It would be familiar to all of us, and 100 years is enough time between games for there to be some creativity. Using FFXI as a benchmark and launching with airships, chocobos, a mail system, and things that have been standard in MMOs since everquest will go a long way in quelling our disappointment.

I am as sad as everyone here, as this game's 1-year anniversary is in two months and we have seen next to nothing in terms of actual content, or developing the FF "feel". Yeah, it's not laggy, and yeah, we can search items in a clunky market system...but the game is toast. It really is, and it is my conclusion that if SE was smart they would scrap it and spend their money on something the fans want...just look at innovative MMOs around the corner, GW2, TERA, to name a couple. How will FFXIV hold a candle to these? I don't see it happening...this is a bottomless pit and it was a gigantic mistake.

[Wolfie]

No, SE needs to STOP playing to their strength, when their "strength" leads to such bad games. FF13 and 14 are visually stunning, the story (or what little there is in 14) is good, character personality and design is good, but nobody cares because the gameplay is so bad. SE needs to fix their problem of using outdated gameplay mechanics and features and get with the times.

[EinSof]

haha i guess what i meant was it doesnt take a brain surgeon to understand what made FFXI gameplay good, and to simply improve little things about it (speed, movement, etc. nothing too complicated for SE) and thus letting SE go be the graphics whores they have become.

[viion]

If they could have chocobos and airships and mail systems they would, scrapping this game and making a new one will only delay it for longer than it would be to implement it.

Its not that they dont want them in or choose not to, its just their priorities are different than ours, and they've had trouble in more areas than they expected.

No new game is going to fix that and it'd be silly to think it would.

[EinSof]

If they could have chocobos and airships and mail systems they would, scrapping this game and making a new one will only delay it for longer than it would be to implement it.

Its not that they dont want them in or choose not to, its just their priorities are different than ours, and they've had trouble in more areas than they expected.

No new game is going to fix that and it'd be silly to think it would.

really? I figure if SE was going for a AAA game they could focus on a AAA game instead of trying to make a DDD game into CCC. lol.

[Wolfie]

FFXIV's gameplay IS an updated version of FFXI's gameplay. It's outdated and boring, which is why this game is where it is now.

[EinSof]

FFXIV's gameplay IS an updated version of FFXI's gameplay. It's outdated and boring, which is why this game is where it is now.

Updated would be for example, a dodge mechanic. Updated does not mean stand still and auto attack...

[Wolfie]

Updated would be for example, a dodge mechanic. Updated does not mean stand still and auto attack...

Well. We're just arguing semantics now, but yes, FFXIV tried to update/upgrade FFXI's gameplay, but didn't add in anywhere near enough cool new features.

[viion]

really? I figure if SE was going for a AAA game they could focus on a AAA game instead of trying to make a DDD game into CCC. lol.

But you're viewing it like a whole new project is going to fix everything, what if they do that and have more troubles? lol People said the exact same thing about XI a few years back "Just start a new one!" because of spaghetti code and this is the result.

There is much more to the fix than just auto attack, even if it doesn't seem like it right now. Right now all the stats are very "broken", they dont do much and they're sorting out this also.

[Wolfie]

But you're viewing it like a whole new project is going to fix everything, what if they do that and have more troubles? lol People said the exact same thing about XI a few years back "Just start a new one!" because of spaghetti code and this is the result.

There is much more to the fix than just auto attack, even if it doesn't seem like it right now. Right now all the stats are very "broken", they dont do much and they're sorting out this also.

There's much, much more broken and outdated with this game beyond stats and a combat system. They don't even have the game engine and server infrastructure done properly. I swear, every time the devs make another post regarding this game's status, it's like we're taking another step back towards Alpha.