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    ZandarCasseline's Avatar
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    Zandar Casseline
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    HM primal battles for example give you several opportunities for the PLD to cast Stoneskin. Your job as tank is to soak damage and keep enmity. SS in combat helps you do both.

    Besides, any PLD with SS should understand the healing side of the game well enough to want to help out your healers, so why wouldn't you do this?
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Just quick question, wonder if anyone's tested it.

    Can a WHM stoneskin overwrite PLD stoneskin?

    I also wonder if any WHMs would feel the PLD is interfering because now it's hard to keep track if that stoneskin is a measly 10% or is it a powerful 18% one.
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    Khemi Amariya
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Just quick question, wonder if anyone\\'s tested it.

    Can a WHM stoneskin overwrite PLD stoneskin?

    I also wonder if any WHMs would feel the PLD is interfering because now it\\'s hard to keep track if that stoneskin is a measly 10% or is it a powerful 18% one.
    I'm a fairly new WHM to end-game content. My stoneskin does overwrite a Paladin's (presumably because it's better) - I know this because I stoneskin my party before bosses and if a Paladin's is up, mine "wins".

    I dislike it when a Paladin casts Stoneskin on everyone before a boss (while I'm still buffing people) because it can make me think I've already buffed, but it's not too annoying.

    During combat, if you Paladins have time to stoneskin yourselves, do it! That 10% buffer can mean I'll be able to save you after a big hit, or I can conserve my mana for other things.
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    Kyana Nekote
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I cast on myself when I have enough time (boss turns around to do random attack), to prepare for hard hits (Titan MB) or on the MT if I'm OT.
    SS is a spell every PLD should have and use.

    Spamming it is not that great though. You're not a healer and you have to ensure the rest of the team can go all out without drawing aggro.
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    Amardis Amariyo
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    jut fyi, the stoneskin is affected by mitigation buffs, meaning with rampart/sentinel it will soak more dmg
    it is literally adding hp to your hp pool with all benefits the bigger hp pool has
    so it is not more effective on wars then on plds as they have shield oath :P
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    Last edited by Geobryn; 01-20-2014 at 07:48 PM.

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    Jon Bigwood
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    In low level Duty Roulettes the healer will be synced and have no stoneskin, but if you have it as a cross-class skill, it does not get synced. You can stoneskin everybody before Ifrit normal mode, for exampe, or stoneskin yourself before the bosses. This is not too important, though, just to notice it.
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    Onion Lord
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I spam SS at every oppertunity when playing PLD and when you have to switch tanks in battles like Ultima HM if the other tank is a WAR I spam it on him when its his turn to tank, it helps alot!
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    Spam stoneskin is perfectly fine - let's dispel the myth that its not. You can still block and parry, the only things you need to consider are:

    A. Should I be stoneskinning someone else? (Bard kiter in T1, weak DPS in Titan?)
    B. Do I have a nice enmity lead?
    C. Is my DPS important to this portion of the fight?

    If you said no, yes, no, and you have full mana: Fail! Every tick that you have full mana you are wasting some mitigation. When I know I am going to get a nice enmity cushion (Garuda EX comes to mind), I will go so far as to spam SS, RB my mana back up, do it again.

    Another situation comes to mind in tanking Ultima Weapon HM. While you are NOT the MT in this, make yourself useful as a PLD and stoneskin the other tank or healer until you run out of mana, then RB back up and do it again until you are out of mana again, repeat.

    You can make a significant impact in the protection of your party as a PLD.
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    Sheepy Sheepy
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    never in 5 months have i partied with a pld that uses stoneskin to its fullest

    i think i saw it like twice in wp last boss, and thats not really helping cos mine just overwrites it, but atleast they tried

    never seen anyone do it for titan, the fight where it could make its most difference

    hope it catches on, not holding my breath though
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    Asteldian Caliskan
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    Cerberus
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    Armorer Lv 50
    I often try keep as up on some dps and the healer - in tense situations the healer may be so focused on keeping you alive or saving a dps who didn't avoid a mechanic that they themselves are slow to react and take a hit. In fact, so long as I have aggro, I am often casting ss. If the dps are all protected I will get on with doing some damage. I also cast on myself when it seems appropriate
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