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    Let 2 SCH shields stack with diminishing returns

    Let the second SCH shield stack at a 50% rate if another SCH in the group already has a shield on. WHM are already the better healer, but have a lot of groups that will not allow 2 SCH seems sad.
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    Let the second SCH shield stack at a 50% rate if another SCH in the group already has a shield on. WHM are already the better healer, but have a lot of groups that will not allow 2 SCH seems sad.
    WHM isn't a better healer. SCHs can work really well together just as 2 WHMs can but they need more communication. When I am with a SCH I always make sure we have a Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination rotation. Also, if the fight as phases (most fights do) I will work it out that during such and such phase I will do shielding and the other will just spam Physick so we don't waste MP. Because my MP will run out more we then switch for a phase and all I do is Physick and my MP recovers. I would actually say that 2SCHs is better than 2WHMs given that the two know how to work together. It just so happens that it is rare to have 2 of us that can work well. I do prefer having a WHM buddy though. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    WHM isn't a better healer. SCHs can work really well together just as 2 WHMs can but they need more communication. When I am with a SCH I always make sure we have a Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination rotation. Also, if the fight as phases (most fights do) I will work it out that during such and such phase I will do shielding and the other will just spam Physick so we don't waste MP. Because my MP will run out more we then switch for a phase and all I do is Physick and my MP recovers. I would actually say that 2SCHs is better than 2WHMs given that the two know how to work together. It just so happens that it is rare to have 2 of us that can work well. I do prefer having a WHM buddy though. ^^
    SCH has extremely weak AOE healing. THey can heal fine except any fight with large aoe damage. WHM has amazing aoe healing, and also can single target heal great with regen/cure/free cure ii. A SCH helps a WHM do his job well (not the other way around)
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    Last edited by Squa; 01-19-2014 at 10:06 AM.

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    Adell Raynes
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    There definitely should be some benefit. Its a huge waste for them to not stack at all.
    You can get two regen stacks from 2 whm medica 2s.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Do we really need to go through this again? SCH has a large arsenal of damage mitigation on top of easier MP management. WHM does nothing but heal. If WHM didn't have stronger heals, there would be a serious problem.

    I'm all for seeing better synergy between SCH/SCH but please refrain from claiming SCH or better than WHM or vice-versa as that does nothing but make both parties mad.
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    WHM is NOT the better healer. As a matter of fact, wanna talk single target heal?

    WHM Cure II average 1600 for 266 MP - you really don't want to spam this both for MP problems and full enmity.
    SCH Physick + Embrace macro average 1600 for 133 MP (also with high crit like any SCH should have and because the pet can crit too this can go up as high as 2700+) - easily spammable and half enmity

    WHM Benediction theoratical 100% (non-)instant skill on 5 minute timer
    SCH Lustrate 25% heal - faster than lustrate 3x spammable within a minute or usable in between to easy your healing spams. If you have a Aetherflow saved up it's even spammable 6X in a row.

    2 SCH working together and cycling succor and a roused + Fey Illuminated Whispering Dawn = pretty awesome.
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    Last edited by Kyomih; 01-17-2014 at 07:35 PM.

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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    A SCH helps a WHM do his nob well
    Just chiming in only to say I laughed out loud at this highly amusing typo.
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    SCH def takes alot of work especially when coordinating with another SCH.
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    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    In my eyes if you let SCH shields stack, WHMs needs a buff.
    At end games yes WHMs hit hard and that is something i'm jealous of, but seriously the amount of heals they can get out at a time is hard on them in comparison to SCH where we can throw rouse up and spam embrace and lustrate while running, just saying.

    If Sch gets a buff like this, WHM def needs some.
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    I wonder why ppl keep complaining about WHM being better than SCH (or vice versa).

    I think, the healing classes are quite well balanced and synergize each other well.
    Yes, of course in some situations one class has the upper hand in others not, but I'd not want to miss a WHM buddy in coil, while I'm healing with my SCH.
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