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  1. #101
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    It seems like a waste of time to try to implement this. Most people would probably just turn it off immediately anyway. I certainly would.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    With so many useless minions and mounts they're creating, I find it hard to believe the "PS3 limitations" excuse :\
    Useless!? What the heck! People complain about not enough mounts, they make mounts, and people complain about useless mounts! People ask for more Minions, they make more minions! People complain about useless minions!

    It never ends!


    They don't want screen clutter or lag! End of story.

    /thread
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFX7686 View Post
    It seems like a waste of time to try to implement this. Most people would probably just turn it off immediately anyway. I certainly would.
    Most people would probaby have it turned "on"! Hehe, not vice versa.
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  4. #104
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    This is bizarre. You have people in here saying stuff like "I do NOT want to see this, AT ALL" or "Too much clutter!" or better still "Even if it's a high requested feature i'm happy they would say no to it."

    Lmao, really? You don't like a (very popular, highly requested) UI feature that pretty much every other MMO has, so you think nobody else should have it either? You know there's this neat thing called an "Options menu" that allows you do to really sweet things like turn off user interface functionality you don't need or want. You can go in there and turn off those blasted speech bubbles whenever you like! I know, it's a mind-blowing concept.


    I don't even want these bubbles for say chat. I want them for party chat, so I can grab the attention of people who aren't looking at the chat box during a fight without having to be obnoxious and spam sound effects (which are also not very easy to type out when you're in the middle of a fight frantically trying to remind someone to kill the adds). They're very useful and I don't think I've actually ever seen an MMO that doesn't have the option for them before this one. Some people may not like more screen clutter or they may whine about "m-m-m-muh immersion!!", but those people can, y'know, turn them off.

    Disappointed that Square won't be adding them to the default UI when they already have the functionality in the game but I can only hope that they'll be possible with UI mods. I wonder if the people in this thread who don't want anyone else to have this feature will start forum petitions to ban the use of speech bubble addons?
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    Last edited by Ninix; 01-31-2014 at 09:20 AM.

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ildur View Post
    I don't understand why people keep argumenting with "too much clutter" and "speech bubbles take too much space" when none of it is an issue in other games with speech bubbles. Seriously, stop making up problems to justify the lack of speech bubbles as if it were some kind of magical solution to a non problem.
    My sentiments exactly.

    Like it or hate it, WoW has more active players in a "small" space then any other AAA MMO and they also have chat bubbles.. but yet, you don't hear complaints of clutter or problems with the chat bubbles. Wildstar, another up and coming MMO to be in open beta soon (and they've already shared more about their game than SE did at release...) is going to have chat bubbles and even with the packed areas due to only one server for the CB, the chat bubbles were not a complaint.

    On a second point to this, people that complain that they should use the developers to make actual content? You do know that there are these things called development teams, and the teams can only have so many people on them to work on particular thing before you get overlap (which is at best useless, and at worst hindering); so you can't just keep throwing more bodies on a project and expect more work done. Which means that any team that would be sent to work on this kind of thing wouldn't be helping with the content development anyway.

    I really do get irritated by the people that claim "Because i won't use (don't like) the option, no one should even have the option!". The line of thinking is just nonsensical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninix View Post
    Some people may not like more screen clutter or they may whine about "m-m-m-muh immersion!!", but those people can, y'know, turn them off.
    This always confused me too.. we're all people sitting in front of a computer/tv while playing, no amount immersion is gonna make you forget that. >.>;
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 01-31-2014 at 09:02 AM.

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Useless!? What the heck! People complain about not enough mounts, they make mounts, and people complain about useless mounts! People ask for more Minions, they make more minions! People complain about useless minions!

    It never ends!


    They don't want screen clutter or lag! End of story.

    /thread
    I'm no sure if you're being sarcastic, considering how huge some mounts are, and minion's sole purpose is to take space.

    But I guess everyone's right, we don't need speech bubbles with the option to turn it off for those who don't like them.

    Btw, is anyone else buying the OST to get the minion? Isn't it awesome? Such a great addition, thanks SE. The best thing is how no one can turn them off so they're forced to see how awesome I am.
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  7. #107
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    pppl who we already /blacklisted can still jump around annoying the hell of you. unless they make it so that whoever that are blacklisted would never show up, AND OR won't be able see their JUMPING AND any AOE skills/spells effects, I would never agree to put in any features that would easily be abusively used to annoy the shit out of other players.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umero View Post
    pppl who we already /blacklisted can still jump around annoying the hell of you. unless they make it so that whoever that are blacklisted would never show up, AND OR won't be able see their JUMPING AND any AOE skills/spells effects, I would never agree to put in any features that would easily be abusively used to annoy the shit out of other players.
    You do know that any competent programmers that create a chat bubble system make sure it works with the blacklist system, so that you never see their bubbles. 'course, this is SQE we're talking about, their chat system is already about the most amateur you can get; Pure spam can overflow the filter and you'll see their chat messages.
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  9. #109
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    Just my last .02 gil on this topic.

    - It's been beat into the ground in many times, devs don't want it.
    - No amount of arguing/complaining/whining will get a feature that brings very little game play value to be implemented.
    - Creative direction in the game is to be considered, whether you agree with it or not.
    - It's not a simple, "It's easy!" If you worked on any sort of development project you'd never let words like that slip past your lips.
    - Cost of developers working on a feature that, a) SE doesn't want b) I'd wager majority of the player base doesn't want just simply based on the small amount of likes in this thread or people simply don't care, which isn't a good reason to implement something either.
    - You want your devs to work on features people want to use by default not turn off immediately.
    - The devs/reps don't have to give you a detailed explanation for anything. If you don't like it, simply move on. If you are losing sleep over it...you've got other issues to contend with.

    I feel for some of the folks who are passionate about it, but really folks, dev's have spoken that they aren't adding it. Just move on, it isn't preventing any of you from playing the game. If a feature such as speech bubbles not being in the game is ruining the game that much for you, perhaps this isn't the game for you? Arguing back and forth with just the player base doesn't really get you any closer on seeing it implemented.

    The main post has only 23 likes of making this reply. That roughly represents 0.000023% of the population.

    My rough numbers are coming from these assumptions: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...58#post1772158
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    Last edited by Errors; 01-31-2014 at 09:39 AM.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Errors View Post
    I'm on the side against having visual speech bubbles. I don't care what reason was given about limitations. My concern is the screen clutter. Can you imagine being in Mor Dhona or in towns or FATES? Oh, I can turn it off you say? How about we just not have SE waste time even working on it and put your energy towards actual content for the game?



    That's my 2 gil on the topic.
    Nice try... those aren't chat bubbles, those are merchants selling items because Ragnarok Online doesn't have an Auction House.

    chat bubbles don't clutter the screen, they work perfectly fine in other MMORPG's and it seems pretty stupid and out-dated not to have them in FFXIV... the amount of times people miss chat because it doesn't appear on their screen is disgusting.
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