Tanks/Healers that queue and decline repeatedly

[Volxima]

Look at it thi way: a player joining a queue and subsequently withdrawing is equivalent to that player never having joined the queue in the first place. By extension, 20 minutes of repeated withdraws is equivalent to staring at the Duty Status window showing 5/6 tanks for 20 minutes. The progress vultures aren't actively impeding your abililty to form a group, since the spot they would be filling is empty anyway; the only thing they're changing is your perception of the process.

[waca]

Look at it thi way: a player joining a queue and subsequently withdrawing is equivalent to that player never having joined the queue in the first place. By extension, 20 minutes of repeated withdraws is equivalent to staring at the Duty Status window showing 5/6 tanks for 20 minutes. The progress vultures aren't actively impeding your abililty to form a group, since the spot they would be filling is empty anyway; the only thing they're changing is your perception of the process.

No no no.... 10 minutes of PLAIN waiting is not equivalent to [10 sec crafting + 5 sec abandon craft and change to dps job + 10 sec waiting for party member to comfirm + 3 sec change back to crafting class]x20 times.
Do you really understand how annoying and unhumanize is that? Please look it as this way.

[Ishmachiah]

But as a lawful good sociopath(no clarification needed), I commend your braisen attitude. If only more people would show us the true face of evil, we all could act accordingly.
Cheers!

Lawful Evil, not Lawful Good but your point is well received. After reading more of the thread (after my post and your reply mind you); Make no mistake, your argument is sound and your logic spot on. I know 100% that my actions are not fan favourites to the majority and that they are as wrong as a vanilla ganache.

I like knowing who I am dealing with and give others the same courtesy.

Cheers!

[Alistaire]

Not sure what else you could want out of there besides the tomes. why not PUG? lol

It's not a matter of wanting something other than tomes, it's a matter of not wanting to carry leeches.

[Volxima]

No no no.... 10 minutes of PLAIN waiting is not equivalent to [10 sec crafting + 5 sec abandon craft and change to dps job + 10 sec waiting for party member to comfirm + 3 sec change back to crafting class]x20 times.
Do you really understand how annoying and unhumanize is that? Please look it as this way.

Okay, if you start a long craft while you're expecting DF to ding, that's entirely on you. Otherwise, just finish out the craft. If nobody's cancelled, you can still get to the confirm button on time, and if someone has then you're no worse off. Again, the only thing changing here is your perception of it. Just mellow out a little and it's all cool.

[ashwich]

What I don't understand is. Why do people bother to do this esp for things like wp manor. It takes 20 minutes to clear normally. 10-12 SR. I mean you could be fishing for queue for half of that. And screw quite a few people in the mean time. Just go with what's there and get the damn thing over with.

[kayuwoody]

Soo if it isn't used the way you use it, it's not used as intended?

In this particular case, considering the newest patch specifically removed the in progress indication to inhibit this exact behaviour: yes, it wasn't intended. You're plainly wrong in this case, so stop arguing to the contrary.

[Necaust]

I see it this way....

If a single tank or healer can carry a failgroup in a 2/3 or 3/4 dungeon to success, they deserve those quick myths. As a tank, I find it far more rewarding to help such groups (usually new players) through these obstacles. Perhaps what really needs changed is how dungeons are flagged as partially complete. If checking the box meant more, those queued for new dungeons would not see the LFD spam to begin with.

[Ishmachiah]

In this particular case, considering the newest patch specifically removed the in progress indication to inhibit this exact behaviour: yes, it wasn't intended. You're plainly wrong in this case, so stop arguing to the contrary.

That is speculation as SE removed the progress indication due to the constant complaints of crybabies. We do not know the actual intent as you yourself have already stated, "the newest patch" changed everything.

[Mykll]

That is speculation as SE removed the progress indication due to the constant complaints of crybabies. We do not know the actual intent as you yourself have already stated, "the newest patch" changed everything.

If that is true how come I still cannot place new seasonal/event gear in my armoire? The "constant complaint of crybabies" about that has been going on a lot longer than LotA has been in the game.