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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    So in other words you(and others like you) want the largest reward, for the least amount of work at the unwilling sacrifice of others? And you don't see a problem with that?
    Other who? I join a party of 3 others just like I would any other party, infact I'm helping the people who need a healer because their other ditched them. Who is the bad one? Me joining a party that would fail otherwise, or the healer that left the dungeon unfinished? And to take it a step further, are you saying I'm the bad one for doing something someone else would do? have you never joined a party in progress?
    LOL what kind of person claims a win over thumbs up, thats so sad.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    Other who? I join a party of 3 others just like I would any other party, infact I'm helping the people who need a healer because their other ditched them.
    Please do not try and muddy the matter, you are clearly not using the Duty Finder as intended(knit picking for the best results for least work). As your previously quoted statement said; you are continously leaving queues only to join when you have found the dungeon that is right at the end to gain the biggest reward for the least effort. Meanwhile the other people who are trying to do the dungeon from the start, can't get a queue because you(and others like you) are repeatedly leaving the queue for any new dungeon. So because a high volume of people are doing the same thing, many other people are waiting increasingly long periods of time because of your desires. While 1 group gets a benefit from your actions, many others are left painfully frustrated in your wake.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    LOL what kind of person claims a win over thumbs up, thats so sad.
    I'm confused, who is trying to 'win'? This isn't a battle mate, this is a discussion regarding player behavior and how it is negatively effecting others. When other players see what we write and agree, they thumbs up. Since most of the people on your side of the discussion('there is no problem with what you do') have little to no thumbs up, it stands to reason your opinions do not reflect the opinions of the majority of the people who are reading this.
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  4. #34
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    There are a lot of buzzwords going around on this forum, "as intended", and "mechanics" to name a few. You use DF to join parties, there is also a tick mark on the side that says "Join party in progress". I tick this, and hit join, at this point I am given two options, to either A join, or B withdraw. not once have i strayed from the "as intended". If you had the choice of going straight to the end of an END game dungeon, wouldn't you take that choice?

    I see this thing all the time, you get 4 thumbs up and you think you have the whole player base on your side.
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  5. #35
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    Kaalia Deathrender
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    Odd, my monk gets a CT group about as quickly as my tank. I could totally withdraw spam if i only wanted the last 2 bosses as a dps.
    You're lucky then. Whenever I DF for CT its never quick as DPS for me, since CT's been released I've never had a queue for it (while monk) faster than 20 minutes, longest being an hour and ten minutes (it was early when not many people on) before I finally cancelled the queue and logged off for a bit.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    There are a lot of buzzwords going around on this forum,.... wouldn't you take that choice?
    These aren't 'buzz words' they're the properly defined word to describe the situation. It's perfectly clear that the Duty Finder was not created to allow players to only join dungeons in progress and at the very end boss.
    So what would happen if every single player only accepted queues for dungeons in progress and never started their own? There would never be any dungeons in progress.
    I take the first queue that pops, and never think twice.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    I see this thing all the time, you get 4 thumbs up and you think you have the whole player base on your side.
    Again you attempt to muddy the matter here. My exact words are quoted bellow.
    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    Since most of the people on your side of the discussion('there is no problem with what you do') have little to no thumbs up, it stands to reason your opinions do not reflect the opinions of the majority of the people who are reading this.
    I'll even quote and underline the words you found new context for; "...your opinions do not reflect the opinions of the majority of the people who are reading this."
    I clearly only singled out the players reading this thread, and made no implications otherwise.
    Go look through each post, it's not just 'my post' that has thumbs up. Every single post on my(our) side of the discussion is clearly double if not higher than any other post making statements to the contrary.
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  8. #38
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    I apologize for the triple post but 1000 character limit is not enough to properly express my opinions.
    Rinkaen, you've also failed to address this;

    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    Meanwhile the other people who are trying to do the dungeon from the start, can't get a queue because you(and others like you) are repeatedly leaving the queue for any new dungeon that pops for favor of one at the end boss. So because a high volume of people are doing the same thing, many other people are waiting increasingly long periods of time because of your desires. While 1 group gets a benefit from your actions, many others are left painfully frustrated in your wake.
    You are benefiting at the unwilling sacrifice of others. That, again, is clearly not how the game was intended to be played in relation to the scope of this converation.
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  9. #39
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    Soo if it isn't used the way you use it, it's not used as intended?
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  10. #40
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    Soo what would happen if every single player only accepted queues for dungeons in progress and at the last boss fight and never started their own dungeons?
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