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    If I queue for WP or HM dungeons i'm looking for easy myth. I hit the "join party" just to find people close to or at final boss. If the party is fresh i hit withdraw and wait a few minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    If I queue for WP or HM dungeons i'm looking for easy myth. I hit the "join party" just to find people close to or at final boss. If the party is fresh i hit withdraw and wait a few minutes.
    That's exactly why I hate using DF because people like you want the easy way of scoring myth tomes; I always spend several minutes waiting for an actual group to queue up because someone wants to keep withdrawing for not having the optimal join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    That's exactly why I hate using DF because people like you want the easy way of scoring myth tomes; I always spend several minutes waiting for an actual group to queue up because someone wants to keep withdrawing for not having the optimal join.
    Not sure what else you could want out of there besides the tomes. why not PUG? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    Not sure what else you could want out of there besides the tomes. why not PUG? lol
    It's not a matter of wanting something other than tomes, it's a matter of not wanting to carry leeches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    Not sure what else you could want out of there besides the tomes. why not PUG? lol
    Are you aware that you use other ppl for you? If everyone would do it there would be no party. But no word will help here, i know... ignorant ppl like that just wont listen. At least not until they learn something in life from aging...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    If I queue for WP or HM dungeons i'm looking for easy myth. .... If the party is fresh i hit withdraw and wait a few minutes.
    So in other words you(and others like you) want the largest reward, for the least amount of work at the unwilling sacrifice of others? And you don't see a problem with that?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrDiezel View Post
    I do it, others do it, its whatever. I do however wait a minute or 2 before I re-queue. That is courteous.
    Courteous to whom? Most certainly not the people who got a queue only to have you withdraw.


    Whenever you are about to do something that only benefits you, ask yourself "Is this the way it was intended to be used?" If the answer is "No." then you've just defined yourself an exploit.
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    Last edited by JonBon; 01-24-2014 at 04:34 AM.

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    Ishmachiah G'tenpe
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    So in other words you(and others like you) want the largest reward, for the least amount of work at the unwilling sacrifice of others? And you don't see a problem with that?
    I see nothing wrong with it. Especially the part about the unwilling sacrifice of others. That's what the majority of people are for and that's how they're used.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    Courteous to whom? Most certainly not the people who got a queue only to have you withdraw.
    I honestly call this a personal problem. Queue with 7 others and problem solved. When you're able to make 24 man groups in time, 90% of this whining will go away.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    Whenever you are about to do something that only benefits you, ask yourself "Is this the way it was intended to be used?" If the answer is "No." then you've just defined yourself an exploit.
    As a Lawful Evil Sociopath (both in game and real life) who only does things because I benefit from its completion, why would I ask myself the intent of a system I have already chosen to manipulate for personal gain?
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    "What is this? You must forgive me, but I was not expecting company. As you can see, we are somewhat preoccupied right now, but no matter. As I am a gracious host, I will tend to you... Personally." ~ Nexus-Prince Shaffar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonBon View Post
    So in other words you(and others like you) want the largest reward, for the least amount of work at the unwilling sacrifice of others? And you don't see a problem with that?
    Other who? I join a party of 3 others just like I would any other party, infact I'm helping the people who need a healer because their other ditched them. Who is the bad one? Me joining a party that would fail otherwise, or the healer that left the dungeon unfinished? And to take it a step further, are you saying I'm the bad one for doing something someone else would do? have you never joined a party in progress?
    LOL what kind of person claims a win over thumbs up, thats so sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    Other who? I join a party of 3 others just like I would any other party, infact I'm helping the people who need a healer because their other ditched them.
    Please do not try and muddy the matter, you are clearly not using the Duty Finder as intended(knit picking for the best results for least work). As your previously quoted statement said; you are continously leaving queues only to join when you have found the dungeon that is right at the end to gain the biggest reward for the least effort. Meanwhile the other people who are trying to do the dungeon from the start, can't get a queue because you(and others like you) are repeatedly leaving the queue for any new dungeon. So because a high volume of people are doing the same thing, many other people are waiting increasingly long periods of time because of your desires. While 1 group gets a benefit from your actions, many others are left painfully frustrated in your wake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    If I queue for WP or HM dungeons i'm looking for easy myth. I hit the "join party" just to find people close to or at final boss. If the party is fresh i hit withdraw and wait a few minutes.
    Yes, congrats to beinga a fool...
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