Leviathan-Egi: What's its role going to be...?

[Mimilu]

(This is all hypothetical, just me rambling...)
With patch 2.2's announcement, one of the few tidbits SE provided for us was the awakening of a new Primal, Leviathan.
The idea of a new primal has brought speculation about the possibility of a new toy for Summoners to play with, the Leviathan-Egi.
My question is, what role could it possible play?
I mean, Garuda is a Summoners main offensive tool, while Titan is a tank, even Ifrit has its ability to annoy mages in PvP with its physical attacks. Would it just be another upgrade for the Garuda/Emerald line? Or maybe a replacement for Ifrit as the new physical egi? Would it be something unique? Or will they never release another egi and I'm just wasting my time?
What's everyone's thoughts on the subject?

[Nexxus]

A buffer pet !

I don't think Leviathan-Egi will be on, at lest not until 3.0... Else, i'd also like a Water Fist for my monk to play with healing things~ ^^.

[rabbitzero]

A buffer pet !

I don't think Leviathan-Egi will be on, at lest not until 3.0... Else, i'd also like a Water Fist for my monk to play with healing things~ ^^.

I could be wrong, but didn't they say there wouldn't be any new egis until an expansion at least? I wish we could get them sooner, but i haven't heard anything yet. I'd love more variety, if only for the sake of having something else out instead of garuda. :\

[Volsung]

A buffer pet !

I don't think Leviathan-Egi will be on, at lest not until 3.0... Else, i'd also like a Water Fist for my monk to play with healing things~ ^^.

Actually this is kinda my dream. Levi would be a weaker attacker but provide party buff

Ramuh would be weaker but provide enfeeblements

and shiva would be a frontline AoE attack for lots of trash in dungeons

For this to work though, ifrit needs an overhaul, the poor sod

[TitanACU]

the idea is pretty cool. Levi could be an AoE pet...

- randomly encase up to 3 enemies in a water prison(much like the Eft in Brayflox) would cause DoT and Bind for 12 secs.
- Have a Tsunami wash over all enemies within 18 yalms of target. Causes stun for 3 seconds.
- Acid Rain- increases damage dealt to enemies by 15% for 20 seconds
- Its basic attack could shoot water stream out of his mouth.

[Ardan]

I believe they said there wouldn't be any new Egi to play with until a level cap increase.

[Sylari]

I believe they said there wouldn't be any new Egi to play with until a level cap increase.

Egis as job ability for leveling up is an awful idea because of how mutually exclusive the are and how limited the scope of their utility is.

Normally the idea of giving one class an extra ability without giving the same consideration to others would be a big red flag, but given how simply by its nature Summon IV would either be useless or automatically invalidate Summon I/II/III they could get away with throwing egis in out of expansion. Would be more lore friendly too.

Yes, Bard songs are also mutually exclusive, but they're also designed to be more dynamic in their usage ( i.e. you turn different ones on and off on the fly depending on the situation) while egis have no such usability (due to prohibitive cast times and completely overlapping functionality)... the exception there being the archer song (because it's useless in any meaningful content).

[Ardan]

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We didn't get the Egis as we leveled up, we gained them through our job class quests alongside of our more used abilities, (tri-disaster, Fester etc). I would assume SE would continue this trend when the cap gets raised by adding in more job quests to gain more abilities, such as the ability to summon Leviathan.

I want Leviathan as an Egi just as much as everyone else here, but I'd rather see adjustments to our current Egi first for rather obvious reasons.

[TraeSnow]

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SMN also are the only job that required us to complete the story mode before we could get our next quest for job advancement. Summons are also not included in our Job Skills tab - except for Ifrit. Garuda and Titan are separate. As such, they can be updated at any level cap without giving other classes skills because of the fact summons are not considered "Job Skills"

Also, Levi could never go to SCH because SCH can't form contracts with Primals - if it would it would be a summoner. Fairies are not Primals and also not "Egis"

[Sylari]

We didn't get the Egis as we leveled up, we gained them through our job class quests alongside of our more used abilities, (tri-disaster, Fester etc). I would assume SE would continue this trend when the cap gets raised by adding in more job quests to gain more abilities, such as the ability to summon Leviathan.

That's because Garuda and Titan weren't new spells in the first place, they're model changes and upgrades to the carbuncles. The one new egi that did have its own spell does (unfortunately) take up a job skill slot.

Unless Leviathan replaces Garuda, Titan or Ifrit it will be a new spell, hence my comment.