Gathering Classes & 'Item Fatigue'

[TheVedis]

I really wish it was an exagerration. I arrived at Dragon Head today at 2pm my time, exhausted every tree and then began going to a harvesting spot, tree, tree, repeat. By 3pm I started getting an occasional fail (I know because I recorded my SP at 2pm and then at 3pm, hourly rate interests me), by 3:15pm I was failing every single attempt.

An hour of gathering whereby I obtained 22.3k SP and an unrecorded number of items, and 15 minutes later I am unable to obtain anything either at a tree or at a harvesting spot.

you realize you just admited it was an exageration...
sounds like it took you over an hour to hit it, not 10-15 minutes


what i do to get around this

first off, dont gather every day, if you do, youll get very little time every day before it sets in, set gathering sessions up every 3-4 days instead(i do mine sunday mornings and wednesday nights)
doing so will give you a near full reset on fatigue every time you do it.

i do mining and botony at the same time, i usualy get in around 30-40k sp still before it sets in bad on me. and thats 30-40k in each. usualy takes anywhere from 3-5 hours to kick in to where i stop doing it. and a few days later when i go back, its back to normal.

there are several reasons for this to be in game, one of course is rmt bots who can just gather millions of items to flood the market.
the other is again, players who will flood the market with these items. right now, with how it is, it keeps any one person from farming 5000 silver a day to sell to everyone and driving it into the ground to where its worthless. its a way to control how much stock goes public at any given time, and can only rise if more people gather rather then people gathering more on their own.


a second point you may wanna know, SP fatigue is being removed in 1.18 so its a null point at this time.

and yes it can suck when your trying to level....i wont deny it, but we gotta deal with it for now. I personaly dont mind it, and im 40 botony and mining, and i have 50 miner friends who had to deal with it all the way to the top and they didnt much care for it but they understand what happens if it doesnt exist too.

[SeleneVenizelos]

you realize you just admited it was an exageration...
sounds like it took you over an hour to hit it, not 10-15 minutes

I think there's a misunderstanding, probably my fault for not clarifying in more detail. When I refer to the fatigue setting in within 10-15 minutes, I mean from the point the game decides I've been at it enough and starts making me fail things. Whilst the time up until that point has varied, the descent into obliterating my gathering has only taken 10-15 minutes.

Thank you for the pointers both of you, I will try some of them out and see if they help. Might need to work on Miner a bit, though, as that's R6 and Botanist is R36.

a second point you may wanna know, SP fatigue is being removed in 1.18 so its a null point at this time.

Let's not go off the point, this is not in anyway about or aimed at SP fatigue.

and yes it can suck when your trying to level....i wont deny it, but we gotta deal with it for now. I personaly dont mind it, and im 40 botony and mining, and i have 50 miner friends who had to deal with it all the way to the top and they didnt much care for it but they understand what happens if it doesnt exist too.

We do, and I will, but it can't hurt to ask them to remove it. =)

[Orcishgrappler]

I think there's a misunderstanding, probably my fault for not clarifying in more detail. When I refer to the fatigue setting in within 10-15 minutes, I mean from the point the game decides I've been at it enough and starts making me fail things. Whilst the time up until that point has varied, the descent into obliterating my gathering has only taken 10-15 minutes.

Thank you for the pointers both of you, I will try some of them out and see if they help. Might need to work on Miner a bit, though, as that's R6 and Botanist is R36.



Let's not go off the point, this is not in anyway about or aimed at SP fatigue.




We do, and I will, but it can't hurt to ask them to remove it. =)

Oh yeah get out that mining pick! It will make you feel so much better! Mining is ALOT of fun and it makes it so much easier to gather. You only need 3 spots to rotate between mining/botany so you can do one mining node and two trees, or to mining nodes and one tree, or one bush, one tree, and one mining node. It makes it so much faster to level! (The best is when you get a mining node, and bush, and a tree right next to eachother, (for the quarry node in treespeak) then you can just get those three in a tiny loop of pure joy!!!

[SeleneVenizelos]

Oh yeah get out that mining pick! It will make you feel so much better! Mining is ALOT of fun and it makes it so much easier to gather. You only need 3 spots to rotate between mining/botany so you can do one mining node and two trees, or to mining nodes and one tree, or one bush, one tree, and one mining node. It makes it so much faster to level! (The best is when you get a mining node, and bush, and a tree right next to eachother, (for the quarry node in treespeak) then you can just get those three in a tiny loop of pure joy!!!

I have often seen people switching between the two recently and wondered how they had the patience to level both. I see that I have clearly missed a beautiful oppurtunity to level both in only keeping with one. I unfortunately did not think to pursue the reasons why they were switching between mining and botany, and just assumed it was to take advantage of nodes spaced very close to each other!

Thank you for the pointers both of you, and until this is either scaled down (hopefully) or removed (wishful thinking), I will take these pointers and try and maximise my efficiency. I think when I'm gathering on Botanist there's going to be a lot of fails on Grade 5 mining spot! I wonder how much a fail at R6 on a Grade 5 will give me...

[Orcishgrappler]

I have often seen people switching between the two recently and wondered how they had the patience to level both. I see that I have clearly missed a beautiful oppurtunity to level both in only keeping with one. I unfortunately did not think to pursue the reasons why they were switching between mining and botany, and just assumed it was to take advantage of nodes spaced very close to each other!

Thank you for the pointers both of you, and until this is either scaled down (hopefully) or removed (wishful thinking), I will take these pointers and try and maximise my efficiency. I think when I'm gathering on Botanist there's going to be a lot of fails on Grade 5 mining spot! I wonder how much a fail at R6 on a Grade 5 will give me...

Oh yeah take that pick with you on grade 5 nodes for sure for two reasons:

First you will get about 170 sp per miss and that really adds up!

And Second you will be able to then just get two trees in a close loop to it (Or more likely in iron lake a tree and a bush) then back to the mining node for a quick 170 sp!

And the best part is its 320 sp or so when you dont miss!

There is no down side to it! Don't feel like you missed a oppurtunity, feel like you just got a brave new one!
Venute forth gather people of Eorsea! Wahoo!